BCF in BPC - Consolidation on YTD Model

Hi
I would like to know whether we need to run the BCF for every period in BPC- Consolidation NW 10 with YTD model.
If you’re using a YTD model for consolidations, then you need to run the BCF
package for each period of the new year. This is necessary to record the opening
balance for each period because in a YTD model, the opening balance isn’t summed
up from the prior periods.
Regards
SAP BOSS

Hi,
if by BCF you mean the carry forward of balances business rule then the answer is yes, you need to run it for every period in a YTD model.
Alternatively you could copy the opening balance flow data from one month to another as it remains constant throughout a financial year, showing always the closing amount from the prior year end period.
BR,
Arnold

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Currently our Client is using YTD (year to date) model to maintain data into BPC 7.5NW, and planning to use BPC for currency conversion from LC to USD. They are not converting the values in Transactional system. When performing this all Balance sheet accounts will be using YTD model for conversion, but income statement accounts should be using Periodic values for conversion.
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Thank you Ethan,
Let me try to explain this with few dollar amounts:
Let us consider that I have data for 1st month (Jan) of the year 2011,
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Net income for Jan. 2011 in USD calculated using Average rate is = $ 9,223,013.14
CTA for the same month is (net income in LC X spot rate) - net income in USD at average rate =((59916152.19)*(0.154617))-9223013.14 = 41,042.564
This value is correct.
For the month of Feb 2011:
Net income for Feb.2011in LC = 60415519.01
Net income for Feb.2011 in USD at average rate (with periodic flag on) = 9,300,112.38 ( I calculated this value manually and it is correct after conversion)
calculated CTA for the same month is (60415519.01*0.154083)-9300112.38 = 8,892.035.
But actually BPC calculated CTA is 18,547.56 (I felt that this may be because I am not using the Flag apply periodic value while calculating CTA and when I flagged that, BPC is giving me a very big difference in CTA)
My balance sheet is exactly off with the difference in CTA.
Hope this helps you to understand my problem.
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