BPC Consolidation application - YTD or periodic

Hi,
YTD or Periodic - For legal consolidation (IFRS, USGAAP), what would be the best option for a customer with ECC, BW and BPC landscape. Are there any major issues in mapping specific consolidation process in YTD application (like reconciliation with ECC data ect).

Hello Lokesh,
The IFRS focuses mainly on the reporting aspects of financial results of an enterprise. Consolidated or not, for all listed companies, these requirements impose strict norms that need to be adhered to for reporting the financial results. Therefore, if an enterprise has many subsidiaries and the numbers are reported for the group as per the IFRS norms, it still presupposes that ALL the norms have been adhered to.
In respect of Business Objects Planning and Consolidation, SAP has come up with a Starter Kit for IFRS adoption. It is pre-configured with all reports, controls and rules for performing, validating and publishing a statutory consolidation in accordance with IFRS standards. An enterprise may have the desired setting for its Consolidation Definition. One of the settings is choosing a pre-defined variant that allows it to have either Periodic or YTD setting to be selected for a given category, data period and currency. For more information, follow this link:
http://help.sap.com/businessobject/product_guides/bofc10/en/FC10_SK_IFRS_ConfDesc_en.pdf
In my view, for legal consolidation, the consolidated financial information is valid only if it is YTD. The periodic values are needed only for calculating the movements - for Statement of Cash Flows. This aspect is well taken care of in the Consolidation Processing u2013 either Full Processing or Incremental processing.
If you want to reconcile the balances as per ECC, BI as well as BPC, you have to consider only the YTD values.
Hope this gives adequate information for clarifying your doubt.
Chakrapani

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