Best Uncompressed for HDV 50i?

Hi there,
I did a video in FCS2, its an HDV 50i project and I have to deliver in the best quality possible for computer, its to be reedit, what settings should I use??
Cheers
Javier

Depending on the speed of your computer 5 hrs sounds like something it might say. H.264 is highly compressed and to top it off you're adding frame controls which take even longer because you're analyzing every frame. Use the uncompressed 8-bit or the ProRes codec. Those should be fine. Actually just try the ProRes and use frame controls. If you do this it will take a long time, not as long as H.264 but frame controls settings add a lot of time. Is this video going to be outputted to a DVD in the end? If so, you need to try to make one now and see if you even notice the jagged edges on an SDTV. You're seeing this because interlaced video on a progressive monitor don't mix very well.
Try the ProRes and if you really need to change the frame controls. Also try it without enhancing them and just changing it to progressive.

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some idea?

Ok fantastic ! you are right (the frustration was talking for me)
video is shooted in 16:9 HDV 1080 50i
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full of orizontal lines (that look like scan lines) expecially evident on figure edges and on motion subjects
and
like it was resized 1440x1080i from a different lower resolution
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Description: Fits up to 150 minutes of video with Dolby Digital audio at 192 Kbps or 120 minutes with AIFF audio on a DVD-5
File Extension: m2v
Video Encoder
Format: M2V
Width and Height: Automatic
Pixel aspect ratio: default
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Frame rate: (100% of source)
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Aspect ratio: 16:9
Field dominance: Auto detect
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2 Pass VBR enabled
Maximum data rate: 7.5 (Mbps)
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Closed GOP Size: 1/2 second, Structure: IBBP
DVD Studio Pro meta-data enabled
In these case the first problem is i can't obtain 16:9 format an the lines becomes more more evidents
software is Final cut Studio HD
camera is Sony HDV HC1e
hope I wrote all the info
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Ken Summerall, Jr. wrote:
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Uh-oh. That's not actually correct.
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The reason I have to work with interlaced footage is that the clips are edited for a TV show as well.
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Gigabyte EP45-UD3LR (Socket 775) Motherboard
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60GB OCZ SSD (FM-25S2S-60GBP2 ATA Device)
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