'Bill and Hold' scenario

Hello All,
My client wants to implement 'bill and hold'. It wants to bill the customer, and remove inventory from the system, but not deliver the material right away (and therefore not create the delivery ticket immediately).
My initial proposal was to invoice based on the sales order, and transfer stock from the regular storage location to another 'customer storage location' so it isnt available. And then, do the delivery when the customer is ready for the material.
This didnt work for the client because it doesnt want to officially own the stock at all. Also, they are ok with posting goods (crediting inventory and debiting COGS) but dont want to create a delivery ticket until the actual delivery leaves for the customer.
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?

This is a peculiar business request because normally the customer wants to control the inventory until such time it leaves the premises and is then GI - remember goods issue means transfer of ownership.
I will give oyu a possible solution just now. But first please remember to explain to your customer that in terms of risk management what they are asking for is dangerous, because if they goods issue (transfer ownership) but the stock remains in their premises, if anything happens to that stock they are liable for losses.
Keeping this in mind, the simpler solution is to GI, Invoice but change your output determination so that the actual delivery document does not print automatically but manually on request at the time of despatch.
Also, just let us know if they are not perhaps referring to procured stock, i.e. stock they buy (outsource) specifically for the customer. If this is the case, then there is a SAP standard process to address it.
Let us know

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Bill and Hold

Hi Gurus,
please help me or suggest me how to handle the below mentioned requirment.
We have a requirement from one of client's customers to do a u201CBill and Holdu201D orders. In other words they want to pay for the product when it is produced. Then for the next several months they will send us orders to ship the product to various locations. These shipment orders will have to be no charge because they have already paid for the product.
How can these u201CBill and Holdu201D orders be handled within our SAP system?
Thanks & Regards,
Jayalakshmi

Hi Lakshmipathi,
Thanks for the response and suggesion.
Let me clarify my self. can we handle this requirment in standard flow.
step 1 - creation of sales order for customer for certain quantity and value of the oder will be determined based on the price of the material.
step 2 - creating the invoioce document for the total sales order value and complwting the financial entries.
step 3 - creating the delivery document and shipments when and where ever required.
step 4 - Finally creation of proforma invoice (which will not debit the customer account agian as he done the payment for invoice created in step 2 ) in order to get the flow to be completed.
please let me know whether we can handle in this way.
if yes how to manage the stock to that particular customer? which document type we can use?
If no, please suggest me how to configure the flow for downpayment.
if i understood correctly, downpayment document is the billing document which we can create wrf to sales oder.
and as you suggested 100% discount for the price condition - are we suppose to maintain a condition records for the relevent access.
request you to explain me the process as soon as possible, as we have a call with user to explain the process.
Thanks & Regards,
Jayalakshmi.

Resource Related Billing: Time and Material Scenario

Can we use internal resource time through CATS for Resource Related Billing: Time and Material Scenario instead of external time of resources through service entry sheet

Yes you can
Please read sap help for more details

Unable to view my bill and now holding for a rep for 115 minutes and waiting...

I also removed Fios voice in January and kept TV and internet. I have spent altogether more than 8 hrs with several representatives from both billing and ecenter where either they couldn't figure out why can't I view my bill and ecenter stated "we'll email you when we fix the problem" and this was three weeks ago. STILL TODAY I CAN'T VIEW MY BILL ONLINE NOR CAN I CHANGE ANYTHING ON MY ACCOUNT. THE DOUBLE BUNDLES PRICING CHANGES WHEN YOU TRY FOR THEM AND REP STATES ONLY FOR NEW CUSTOMERS. I DID HAVE A WONDERFUL REP JUST THIS AM TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT BUT NO LUCK AND NOW I'M SPENDING MY TIME WAITING AND WAITING FOR ECENTER REP TO ANSWER 121 minutes so far! THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW! IF THIS REP CAN'T FIX IT I AM GOING BACK TO MY PRIOR SERVICE! THAT'S A PROMISE. AND THE WHOLE "WE'LL EMAIL YOU WHEN IT'S FIXED" IT'S JUST A WAY TO GET RID OF YOU FOR THE MOMENT. WHAT HAPPENED TO VERIZON? I WAS EXTREMELLY SATISFIED WITH THEIR SERVICE AND CUSTOMER SERVICE UNTIL A PROBLEM SHOWED UP!

I'm sorry you are having difficulty. An agent with access to your account will reach out to you directly by email, private message in the Forums and/or the billing telephone number on your Verizon account for more information or to help you resolve your issue.

Press and hold on a Surface pro touch screen

Hi,
I am having some problems with my Surface Pro, trying to control a relay 'press-and-hold'. When I connect a mouse to the Tablet, Windows registers the left mouse up and down events perfectly, allowing the user to control the relay exactly the way I intended, but when I use the touch screen with either the stylus pen or my finger it only seems to press the LabVIEW on release.
Does anyone have a solution for this problem?
Chris

Jeff-P wrote:
I just tested this on my touchscreen laptop and got a similar behavior. Windows doesn't seem to be registering the left click when you touch the screen until you release. My guess is that this is related to the press+hold for right click functionality on Windows. When I touch and hold for over a second, I get a right click, but when I touch and hold for a shorter time, I get a left click that only registers when I take my finger off. This is consistent with the way that the Windows UI handles touch as well (test the start button for an example).
Interestingly, if I change the mechanical action of the LabVIEW boolean to 'Switch Unit Released' I can't actually toggle the button ever because the press and hold does not register as a left click, and eventually registers as a right click.
Jeff Peacock
Product Support Engineer | LabVIEW R&D | National Instruments | Certified LabVIEW Architect
Actually, this is expected behavior. Try clicking a button on any Windows app, then, while holding down the button, move off of it. The button does not register as pressed. This feature has saved me any number of times.
edit:
Or do you mean it doesn't even depress the button?
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Difference between billing and invoice?

Hi all
can anybody say Difference between billing and invoice?
thanks

Hi Ipsit,
Invoice is document indicating to delivery goods and Billing is a receipt of payment
Tables are VBRK & VBRP. For flow, go to transaction VF03, enter document number and hit 'Display Document Flow' button on toolbar
VBRK and VBRP holds billing/invoice details..
Billing Document:
Generic term for invoices, credit memos, debit memos, pro forma invoices and cancellation documents.
The tables are VBRK and VBRP.
2) -- once u do PGI the delivery document will be created. There is no way to stop it.. The thing u can to do go to the list of created deliveries in VL09. Select the delivery doc which u created. There u have the option of reversing the goods or canceling it.
Billing is generic term and u can say invoice is a type of billing document.
After PGI only way left is to cancel it by Using TCODE MBST as this Tcode is used to cancel any material document.
Please Reward If Really Helpful,
Thanks and Regards,
Sateesh.Kandula

Difference between billing and invoice? How to stop PGI?

can u please help me in these questions.
Difference between billing and invoice? How to stop PGI?

Invoice is document indicating to delivery goods and Billing is a receipt of payment
Tables are VBRK & VBRP. For flow, go to transaction VF03, enter document number and hit 'Display Document Flow' button on toolbar
vbrk and vbrp holds billing/invoice details..
Billing Document:
Generic term for invoices, credit memos, debit memos, pro forma invoices and cancellation documents.
The tables are VBRK and VBRP.
2)-- once u do PGI the delivery document will be created . there is no way to stop it .. the thing u can to do go to the list of created deliveries in VL09.. select the delivery doc which u created.there u have the option of reversing the goods or canceling it.
let me know if i am wrong...
thanks,
madhan
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Validation required so that invoice, billing and accounting is done on same

Validation required so that invoice, billing and accounting is done on same date as the PGI date. Very urgent please help.
Please look into the below scenario.
Excise invoice posting date u2013 07.10.2011
A/c doc posting date u2013 29.09.2011
Reflecting in dispatch report of 07.10.2011.
GL affecting in the month of Sep.
So it want that on PGI date, billing , invoice and accounting enteries are created

Dear Jalaj001,
PGI date will be taken by system as the billing date in VF01 unless the user manually changes it.
Accounting Posting date can be controlled by settings for document type RV.
For excise invoice creation and posting date, i think you will have to use EXITs.
But i am not sure and will leave it for the experts to comment upon.
Thanks & Regards,
Hegal K Charles

Billing and delivery address to be displayed in PO

Dear Gurus,
Here client requirement is as follows : There are three plants in three different places- Chennai, Bangalore and Hyderabad. Client is creating PO from Chennai plant and they want the material to be delivered in Bangalore plant. They want this to be displayed( billing and delivery address) in the purchase order. Kindly suggest me how to map this scenario.Thank you.

Hi,
For delivery adress you can use the subscreen for delivery adress in the item of the PO.
Por billing adress, if it's not the same that the adress for the center, you can do a subroutine for the form (Z)MEDRUCK for the company of these center, of you can create a partner 'Billing adress' and write it in form with a subroutine (Z)MEDRUCK.
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Service & spares not billed to customer scenario

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We have a scenario where the customer location wil be defined as functional locations.Now when the equipement has to be repaired the customer informs the cs department about the same.A service notification will be created in the system.
Now the issue is how to map this process as the customer is neither billed for the service charges,spares replaced or rather the resources used(resource related billing). The service charges are collected at the begining as a contract for the whole year.
If at all a service order is created with refrence to the service notification which involves a spares replacement:
1)How the service orders will be created and wat all things the service order will have.
2)delivery will be created on wat basis
3)If at all a billing is done how the cost will be settled.(Since in realtime the customer is never charged for service provided or spares or reources)
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Thanks & regards
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Hi,
This is SERVICE ORDER PROCESSING WITH SERVICE CONTREACT, and RESOURCE RELATED BILLING is optional.
(A)SERVICE ORDER PROCESSING WITH SERVICE CONTREACT
1. Create Service contract - VA41
    maintain price agreement condition type,
    go to EXTRA menu>>>> technical object, here u can speciefy your equipemt details.
2. Create notification (IW51) & assign contract in notification
3. Create service order(IW34) with refrance to privious notification, and
    maintain settlement rule as SDI & Settlement reciever is your service contract number&its items
4. Confirmation of service order (IW41/IW42)
5. Settlement of order(KO88)
    After this you can go your service order and see settle cost
   Also go in service cntract>>>Environment>>>cost report, see settle cost appearing in contract.
6.And last settle this service contract(VA88).
(B) RESOURCE RELATED BILLING(optional)
1. follow above steps (1 TO 4)
2. Create resource related billing (DP90)
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3. Create biing document(VF01) with refrance to billing request
    After this go in service contract, cost report and see billing value
4. settle the service contract(VA88)
5. Now settle the service order(KO88)
After this go in service contract>>> cost report, and see settled cost
Note : In this scenario revnue is come from billing and cost is come from service order, this all is place against service contract.
treat revnue come from conract as advance recieved from customer for services, and when you crete resource related billing,clear this amount against contract value.
Rgards,
kapil
Edited by: Kapildev Farakte on Nov 5, 2009 12:50 PM

Free samples and needed billing and accounting document

Hi experts,
i got a scenario as below;
we issue free samples to our customers to give in the markets, but issuing this free items there would be some freigt expenses incurred,for that a billing and accounting required. how to configure this please help me
thanx,
shirgud

Shirisha,
1. You will have to create a seperate sample sales Document Type, Item Category and Billing Document.
2. In this Sample Item category you will have tomake pricing as 'B" Pricing for Free goods" pricing procedure ( Copy TAN and change it accordingly to bring it as standard process)
3. Document Procing Procedure = C and Maintain customer pricing procedure accordingly.
4. Maintain Shipping Condition Type KF00 in the free samples pricing procedure either manually (mostly) or else through) so that you can enter Freight Expense at Billing
5. Check whether we have a G/L Assigned for this freight a/c key ERF.
through this config you can process accordingly.
Regards
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Order-related billing and Dlv-related Billing in single Invoice

Say in a single order or order type say OR there can be two materials with different item categories say TAN and ZTAN.
TAN with billing relevance as A( delivery related billing) and ZTAN with billing relevance as B (order related billing )
If that happens the billing will be split
In VOV8 we mention for OR the order related billing as F1 and delivery related billing as F2 in the billing tab
Now in billing TAN will pick F2 as it is delivery related billing
and
ZTAN will pick F1 as it is order related billing.
Now my question:
In VOV8, i maintained OR order type for Order-realted Billing as F2 and Delivery-related Billing as F2 as well.
Then will there still be an billing split ? There will be two F2 invoices TAN will pick one F2 invoice and ZTAN will pick another F2 invoice...?
And i want to know whether this an right way of doing things?? IF not, what is the right way of doing things?
Thank you very much.

Hello,
Yes that is the right way.
You can create Single Invoice for Order Related Items & Delivery Related Items.
E.g. You are Selling Air Conditioner & also installing the same at Customer Location. Now you will Invoice the Customer for Air Conditioner & Installation in the same Billing Correct? Now Air Conditioner is Delivery Related Billing & Installation is Order Related Billing.
It is in such scenario Order Releted & Delivery Related Items can be Invoiced in same Billing Document.
While create Invoice enter the Delivery Number & the Sales Order Number, select both the LIne Items & Execute... You will see the system will pick items from both Order & Delivery.
Hope this helps,
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta

Queries on proforma, billing and taxation in CRM

Hi,
Scenario : SAP CRM Services + ECC 6.0
I have the following queries on billing and taxation in CRM:
1. Is it a must to use CRM Billing in case we are implementing CRM Services or can we use R3 Billing?
2. We are using billing plans in CRM service transactions. Can we still use R3 billing or CRM billing needs to be set up ?
3. Can we do taxation (tax determination) using R3 tax engine (CIN) for CRM Services scenario ? In that case where does the billing need to be done?
4. In case CRM billing and tax determination in CRM is a must in our case, can anyone help me with a TTE configuration guide (I believe that tax calculation in CRM can happen only using TTE)?
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Dhaval

Dear Zaki,
I assume both proforma and commercial invoice is having the same number range interval which is internal.
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USEREXIT_NUMBER_RANGE (Module pool SAPLV60A, program RV60AFZZ)
Since the pro forma is created earlier, this exit should not be valid for pro-forma invoice type.
When the commercial invoice is created, this exit should trigger (if VBRK-FKART = COMMERCIAL INVOICE DOCUMENT TYPE) then put the delivery number in VBFA as the VBELV and fetch
the VBELN if the VBTYP_N is pro-forma invoice (U).
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and fill it in the document number for Commercial invoice.
Check with your ABAP-er and you will get a better idea.
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Defference b/w Bill and Invoice?

What is the difference b/w Bill and Invoice?

Billing is sap internal reference number which is maintained in VF01 and tables
VBRK VBRP gets updated .
Billing in terms means that i have a reference with so and so details that this is the amount charged to the customer for the purchase .
But when i produce this document in paper-work then it is called INVOICE
which is handed over to the customer and the paper work is a legal document that holds details of price and etc...
This is the difference between Billing and invoice.
There will be terms called as INVOICE , First commercial invoice and second commercial invoice but never they can be called as First Billing and second Billing etc.
I hope u got the point.
reward points
regards,
navjot
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Cash bill and credit bill

Hi Experts
client want separate report and transaction for cash bill and credit bill
so can do separate sales document type and billing document type to map above requirement
e.g. Z1OR and Z1F2 for cash bill
Z2OR and Z2F2 for credit bill
if customer pay in cash they will use Z1OR
if customer want thr credit they will use Z2OR
is it right solution ?
please suggest
regards

It depends on how your delivery document should be generated.
If for cash sales, if you want delivery document to be generated automatically in the bacground once sale order is created but not for credit sales, then you should have two sale order types.
Otherwise, it is not necessary to have two order types. Also it is recommended to have two billing types for your requirement but again it depends on the process how it is going to be.
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