BizTalk Applications

Hi all,
Getting back to BizTalk after a long ASP.NET project. I am sure there are many EDI professionals in this forum so once again, I am looking for input as to how to properly structure BizTalk Applications, Send\Receive Ports, etc. for many Trading Partners. I
am still finding it confusing the way EDI is handled in BizTalk. I have been doing EDI for sometime now and the EDI translators and data mappers I have used are pretty straight forward.
Can you EDI Coordinators\Specialists explain how you currently handle the EDI in BizTalk? How do you monitor the acknowledgements? Can you explain from receiving an X12 850 to sending a 856 and or 810?
I have already gone through the EDI walk through, which only talk about a single Trading Partner. I have also watched many training videos on other BizTalk topics (Orchestrations, Schemas, etc.). I can explain how I am used to working with EDI with other
EDI translators\mappers, if needed. I am sure somebody's answer will shine the light.
I am almost ready to give up on BizTalk. Why EDI is so cumbersome in BizTalk?
Thanks in advance.

boatseller,
Thank you for you reply.
How confusing will it be?
I am going to briefly explain a scenario of one of the EDI Translators I have worked with.
1. You create an EDI connection entity, VAN, AS2, FTP, etc.
2. Within this connection entity, you have Trading Partners that utilize this connection.
3. Within the individual Trading Partner entities, you have EDI documents that are exchanged between you and them. At the same time, these TPs have EDI settings (in Biztalk these are the interchange settings).
4. Within the Trading Partner's documents you specify the direction, In or Out.
5. When EDI data is received from a connection (for one or multiple TPs within the same file), the data is sorted to the proper TP and a 997 is generated.
6. After the data is placed in individual TPs, the mapper kicks in to process the data.
7. After the data is processed, the 997s are sent.
Of course there is plenty of details within these steps, but I would like to know how the BizTalk\EDI pros have built the EDI flow from Applications, Send\Receive ports, to Orchestrations(if needed), etc.
If, you ask me for details as to how I built the EDI flow within the EDI translator I worked with, I would gladly explain it. Perhaps, that's where my confusion is. That I am expecting BizTalk to be as simple and straight forward as an EDI translator, when
BizTalk is more than that.
Thanks.

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Ok I have a BizTalk Application that's called :
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I know that is a long name but why should I be punisched when I create an installer for that. I also have a WebService that exposes this schema. And this webservice is stored inside the MSI cab files. So far so good.
But now when I try to install this MSI alongside all my other MSI's I get the following message :
Failed to extract file "C:\Program Files\Generated by BizTalk\FH.CCE.CDM.FinancieleOpdrachtLogistiekMiddel_v0200\36FAA7B1-99DE-4AF6-A910-ED56D02D84EF\WebDirectory\-FH.CCE.CDM.FinancieleOpdrachtLogistiekMiddel_v0200.WES\App_Data\FH.CCE.CDM.FinancieleOpdrachtLogistiekMiddel_v0200.Schemas.FinancieleOpdrachtLogistiekMiddel_v0200.xsd".
(Length=306)
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If i could install in C:\Program Files\Generated by BizTalk\FH.CCE.CDM.FinancieleOpdrachtLogistiekMiddel_v0200 but the extraction would take place in d:\temp or whatever, I would not have a problem. But unfortunately it extracts in a subdir of an already
very long path......
Is there anybody who knows how to solve this... (can I tell the MSI to use D:\TEMP\ as an extract folder).
And using shorter names is not an option.
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You can control the destination path of resources in your MSI by modifying them in the Resources folder of a BizTalk application.
%BTAD_InstallDir% defaults to C:\Program Files\Generated by BizTalk\... etc etc. You can put in whatever you like here.
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If you can tell me how to make the extract process of he cabs point to c:\temp i will be happy to use BTSTASK (wich i am already doing). But the problem is with the extraction oft he web service. It will extract to :
C:\Program Files\Generated by BizTalk\FH.CCE.CDM.FinancieleOpdrachtLogistiekMiddel_v0200\36FAA7B1-99DE-4AF6-A910-ED56D02D84EF\WebDirectory\-FH.CCE.CDM.FinancieleOpdrachtLogistiekMiddel_v0200.WES\App_Data\FH.CCE.CDM.FinancieleOpdrachtLogistiekMiddel_v0200.Schemas.FinancieleOpdrachtLogistiekMiddel_v0200.xsd
Wich is just to long. I want the cabs to extract to c:\temp or something like that.....
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What is the biggest stopper in the BizTalk application testing?

To me the biggest stopper is the work with the test endpoints.
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BizUnit does not solve this problem at all.
The one-way port replacement is simple. Usually the File test ports are good enough.
For the two-way port replacement is complex. Especially for the two-way send ports.
If ports are bind to the orchestrations, the problem is even more complex. We have to rebind ports to test ports and back.
So as result I cannot easily and fast enough create the continuous integration for BTS application. It usually evolve in a special project with unconventional parts.
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Leonid Ganeline [BizTalk MVP] <a href="http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/20258.biztalk-integration-development-architecture.aspx">BizTalk Development Architecture</a>

For BTS application testing in isolation, I use multiple binding files. yes, I need to apply/reapply this different binding files for smoke testing /isolated testing and another binding for integrated testing. Its painful but helps.
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Several BizTalk applications consuming the same web service

When consuming a web service in Biztalk i use the generated items feature, using the service endpoint address. This creates binding files and service schema files. When trying to deploy the web service artifacts to BizTalk Server, and the files
already is deployed in an other Application, an error is raised. How do I solve the issue? What is best practice? A seperate BizTalk Application hosting the artifacts? Not good I suppose if the enterprise/customer has a limited lisence. A seperate "Proxy"
hosted in a .dll file, developed in e.g. c#? Probably a better solution, but kind of annoying having a lot of those lying around. Any suggestions?
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John,
Avoid any situations of dynamic schema resolution, such as explicitly setting the document type
in the XmlDisassembler
Could you please explain some pitfalls for this ...i am doing this and wanted to know about it.
Every time when i ran in to schema resolution issue i tend to use dynamic resolution instead of app reference.
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After Importing Management Packs Biztalk Applications not Detecting

Hi All,
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find any already running applications, please any can guide me, how to do, and how to moniter my Biztalk applications using SCOM. Here SCOM is installed in one Server and BizTalk Installed in my Desktop.
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What are the best way to design biztalk application ?

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Keep it simple : Don't impose any design pattern for the sake of implementing a pattern. Try to find a solution which is simple to maintain.
Keep operational support in mind: While designing a solution keep how this is going to be maintained/ supported during production. Thinking about the operational support up front is key to the success of BizTalk projects (again any project
in general not just for BizTalk).
Maintain Documentation: Document the requirement and proposed solution. try to document your work, which would help.
Consider performance: Don't just implement the solution technically, consider about the performance. As questions like ..Do you really need BizTalk for your requirement? Do you really need Orchestration? etc..
monitoring system: Consider about implement good monitoring system. Consider using SCOM/Openview/BizTalk360 for operational support and start designing your solution in line with this monitoring requirements.
Release process: Have proper release process. Use different environment for development/build/test/integration/UAT and production.
Project management methodologies: Use good project management methodologies like Lean, Agile etc
Then there are standard best practices like project/solution structure, coding standards, etc..
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BizTalk:How to share customized pipeline with more than one BizTalk Application

I have a new BizTalk application which will use a customize generic pipeline . This pipeline has been used in an existing BizTalk application.
When I use BizTalk Server Administration to add this pipeline assembly as a resource for a new BizTalk application, it shows error message: "this biztalk assembley has already in store and is either associated with another application or another type".
My questions is how to share the generic pipeline component with many BizTalk application?
Many Thanks.

Hi,
If you plan on using the deployed pipeline across multiple applications in BizTalk you have two options:
1) The Current Application (in BizTalk Server Administration Console) should have the other application [where the pipeline
is deployed] as reference.
right click the "Current Application" and select "Properties"
on the "Properties" page, left hand side, select "References"
On the right-hand side, use "Add" to add the "Other Application" as a reference.
Refer: How
to Add a BizTalk Assembly to an Application
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for "Other Application" are available/reprehensible in "Current Application".
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as a resource. With this, you don't need any other application to be started apart from this common application. Any other application who wants to use this pipeline will refer this common application.
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High number of BizTalk applications

Are there any concerns to be aware of with having a hundreds (in the range of 300-500) BizTalk applications hosted in a single BizTalk group? From say administration, maintenance or deployment perspective. Appreciate any input.

The more of anything the harder it is to manage.
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Not able to remove the BizTalk Application from Admin Console

While removing the application I am getting the below error and after that not able to see any Resources also for the same application.
TITLE: BizTalk Server 2009 Administration Console
Delete of ApplicationNode failed.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Error while removing application XXXXXX". (mscorlib)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=47400&ProdName=Microsoft+BizTalk+Server+2009&ProdVer=3.8.368.0&EvtSrc=Microsoft.BizTalk.ApplicationDeployment&EvtID=RemoveApplicationFailure
Method not found: 'Microsoft.BizTalk.ExplorerOM.BtsCatalogExplorer Microsoft.BizTalk.ExplorerOM.BtsCatalogExplorer.GetBtsCatalogExplorerInstance()'. (mscorlib)

Hi,
the problem here is that your installation is effectively corrupt, in other words the combination of assemblies on the system does not match one of the supported configurations. I hope this is not a production system?
Having said that I think you have taken some repair steps?
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this is to take advantage of the tools associated with the .net Fusion system. See here for a good description:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/suzcook/archive/2003/05/29/57120.aspx. Also that post is a little old, if you have a .net 4 based system the locations need to be tweaked (but you don't in BTS
2009).
What it will allow you to do is obtain a trace of where .net looked for assemblies and where it found the one it used.
It should be trying to find: microsoft.biztalk.explorerom.dll. However it takes a bit of time to understand the logs so just because you see a few failures don't worry, you are interested in the one it found.
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Import BizTalk Application MSI - Error

Hello,
I am getting an error message while importing Application MSI.
1. Created MSI from same server and trying to import MSI in new applcation.
2. Getting an error message, either biztalk weservice is using bu another application.
Please suggest
Thanks
Aniket
Aniket

Hello,
Here is the error message; When tried to import. Do i need to stop a application (using this file) and then try to import.
TITLE: Import Error
Failed to import "D:\BIZTALK_UAT\X_UAT.msi".
Location of the log file is provided in the Results page.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Resource (-Type="System.BizTalk:WebDirectory" -Luid="/BizTalkWebService") already in store.
1) Use BTSTask's overwrite flag or
2) Set redeploy flag to true in BizTalk Project or
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For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=47400&ProdName=Microsoft+BizTalk+Server+2010&ProdVer=3.9.469.0&EvtSrc=Microsoft.BizTalk.ApplicationDeployment&EvtID=SatEntryExists
BUTTONS:
OK
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Note able to Stop, delete or Deployee Biztalk application

Hello all,
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Error while removing application "BIZTALKApplication1".
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Dear Nilesh,
Is the Enterprise Single Sign On service up and running??
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Deployment problem in biztalk application

i am deploying my biztal server project after deployement of my project i am getting below error, i restarted visual studio as administrator also,host is in running mode, snk is also provided ,kindly tell me how to solve ,thanks in advance
Error    1    Unable to deploy early bindings.        0    0
Error    2    at Microsoft.BizTalk.Deployment.Assembly.BtsAssembly.DeployEarlyBinding(String applicationName)
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0
Error    3    Unable to deploy early bindings.
Failed to update binding information.
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decryption because the secret is not available from the master secret server. See the event log (on computer 'WIN7-PC') for related errors.        0    0
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or decryption because the secret is not available from the master secret server. See the event log (on computer 'WIN7-PC') for related errors.        0    0

SSO has a secret key that it uses to encrypt/decrypt values in the SSO DB which includes all of the port configuration values. When you configure SSO Service from the Configuration wizard you store a file with this key as a password on disk. You will
need this file in order for the SSO to work. If you have moved or lost this file you would need it back in order to get SSO working. Also see this thread
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/biztalkgeneral/thread/7cf95a34-2ea5-4335-b6b2-a986d3726754
To restore the key see
How to Restore the Master Secret
The error can also occur if someone has changed the password of the SSO service account. For this you can find a solution here.
http://www.cnblogs.com/rickie/archive/2006/12/14/592391.html
Abdul Rafay - MVP & MCTS BizTalk Server
blog: http://abdulrafaysbiztalk.wordpress.com/
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Getting Receive File Name and status of application from Biztalk database.

Hello all,
I want to retrieve Receive file name and status of application (started, partially started) in a stored procedure
querying Biztalk databases.
Please share if anybody have an Idea.
Thanks

Hi Nilesh,
Status of BizTalk application can be obtained using ExplorerOM API provided by product. It's Application class has a Status property that returns one of Not Applicable, Started, Stopped, Partially Started.
using Microsoft.BizTalk.ExplorerOM;
private string GetApplicationStatus(string applicationName)
BtsCatalogExplorer catalog = new BtsCatalogExplorer();
string status = "";
try
//connection string to BizTalk management database
catalog.ConnectionString = "SERVER=.;DATABASE=BizTalkMgmtDb;Integrated Security=SSPI";
Microsoft.BizTalk.ExplorerOM.Application app = catalog.Applications[applicationName];
if (app == null)
throw new Exception(String.Format("Application '{0}' cannot be found.", applicationName));
status = app.Status.ToString();
catch (Exception ex)
//Handle exception
System.Diagnostics.EventLog.WriteEntry("MyMonitoryingApp", "Exception call stack: " + ex.ToString());
finally
if (catalog != null) { catalog.Dispose(); }
return status;
UPDATE: Found the thread from where I got this code. Thanks to Ashwin for providing it.
Refer:
Reg Stored Procedures for BizTalk Application Status in BizTalk Admin Console
Rachit
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Biztalk Powershell provider question for Starting and Application

We are trying to start a biztalk application as part of an automated deploy.
We have installed the Biztalk Powershell provider and are trying to use the Start-Application cmd-let.
Can anybody help us understand how to do this.
we have tried
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PS C:\> Start-Application "C:\Program Files (x86)\Generated by BizTalk\Application.Name"
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At line:1 char:18
+ Start-Application <<<< "C:\Program Files (x86)\Generated by BizTalk\Application.Name"
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We have also tried   Start-Application "Name of Application" and this does not work.
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\Generated by BizTalk>
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Start-Application : Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
At line:1 char:18
+ Start-Application <<<< Application.Name
    + CategoryInfo          : NotSpecified: (:) [Start-Application], NullReferenceException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : System.NullReferenceException,BizTalkFactory.PowerShell.Extensions.Cdmlets.StartApplicat
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Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks Lance

We are trying to start a biztalk application as part of an automated deploy.
We have installed the Biztalk Powershell provider and are trying to use the Start-Application cmd-let.
Can anybody help us understand how to do this.
we have tried
Start-Application c:\path to application\name of application and this does not work.
PS C:\> Start-Application "C:\Program Files (x86)\Generated by BizTalk\OLH.Trale"
Start-Application : Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
At line:1 char:18
+ Start-Application <<<< "C:\Program Files (x86)\Generated by BizTalk\OLH.Trale"
    + CategoryInfo          : NotSpecified: (:) [Start-Application], NullReferenceException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : System.NullReferenceException,BizTalkFactory.PowerShell.Extensions.Cdmlets.StartApplicat
   ionCommand
We have also tried   Start-Application "Name of Application" and this does not work.
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\Generated by BizTalk>
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\Generated by BizTalk> Start-Application OLH.Trale
Start-Application : Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
At line:1 char:18
+ Start-Application <<<< OLH.Trale
    + CategoryInfo          : NotSpecified: (:) [Start-Application], NullReferenceException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : System.NullReferenceException,BizTalkFactory.PowerShell.Extensions.Cdmlets.StartApplicat
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Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks Lance
If OLH.trale is executable, you don't need to mention Start-process, give complete path as follows:
&"C:\Program Files (x86)\Generated by BizTalk\OLH.Trale"

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