Blocking a batch with a delivery

Hello All,
I have a scenario, where I have a batch assigned to a material on a delivery and it shows "Sched. for Delivery" in the MMBE against the correct batch. However, I want to be able to reserve this qty, or remove it from the unrestricted qty use so that it can not be used for any other operation until the delivery is PGI'd.
Here is what happens; A delivery is created, and picked for 1 smaller batch on say Monday, but the container truck sits in the lot until Thursday. The batch/qty that is picked shown in MMBE as "sched.for delivery" stock type, but the original QTY still shows as the full amount in unrestricted until the delivery is PGI'd.
On Tuesday, all the smaller batches are mixed into a bigger tank and a new batch is created. Physically the material is not mixed, because it is in the truck already, but from the SAP system standpoint all the qty in the batch assigned to the delivery is mixed into the new batch, and disappears, this consumes the entire qty using MB1B Mvt 311.
On Thursday, when the users go to PGI the old batch, it is gone, and they have to back out the batch in the delivery, undo the QA usage decisions, etc...
EX: If there is 100kg in restricted stock, an 20kgs in the "schedule. for delivery "stock type, I want the restricted availability to only be 80kgs, or to reduce the restricted qty batch by using the delivery note.
What I want is either a hard block on the stock when it is picked, so it can not be used for anything else, or a hard system message stating to the user that only XX qty is available for particular batch when they are mixing the larger batch.
I have thought about a user exit, and I am not sure how that would work. But there has to be a setting in config that makes the "shed. for delivery stock" blocked like it does for say QA hold, or resticted.
Any help would be great.
Jeff

Hello
could u please check the above details available for MSC2N tcode. You can check this and accordingly you can set the 'Restricted & Unrestricted' buttons for transaction.
Program Name      SAPLCHRG
Screen Number     2100
Program Name      SAPLCHRG
Status            BATCH
Table Name        DFBATCH
Field Name        FZUST
Data Element      FZUST
DE Supplement     0
Screen Field      DFBATCH-FZUST
Program Name      SAPLCHRG
Screen Number     1000
Amol

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