Bogus Damaged Device Fee

I need someone to help me with this situation. I don't care if I need to climb the ladder at Verizon, or if someone can just lend a hand in getting this bogus charge off of my account. Below is an email I have drafted, hoping to send it to someone in Verizon Wireless, but have been unable to find anyone to get it to. I will be mailing a letter, calling, and doing one of those live chats if I have to. I'm not letting another big company walk all over the common person again. The email below explains my situation, and provides background on my issue with this Motorola Droid 4 since original purchase.
Hello,
I have a few things to say. The first is going to be the most obvious, and that is the fact that in direct contradiction of the text contained within your email, there were and are no pictures included in your email showing damage to the phone I had returned. The next thing I will say, is that the only damage you would have found on that phone would be the minor aesthetic damage on a couple of the corners, which had nothing to do with the claims I provided to your phone representatives. The problems I had with the phone were, if my memory serves me well, as follows:
1) It would, at times, not charge fully. This had nothing to do with me. I would put it on charge before bed, as I did just about every night, and there would be nights where it was still at 70% or so after a full night of charging. I would also like to stifle your cries to blame the charger by advising you that it was not the charger, because my wife and I swapped chargers to test that theory, and it did the same with hers, which has never given her problems.
2) The power button on the top would very often not work unless I put down significant pressure on it. This is contrary to not only what the phone had originally done when "like new", but also to my current "like new" phone from you and my friends' and family's phones. Although just a minor inconvenience, it still belongs on the list of complaints.
3) Quite often the phone would do this thing where something random would happen when I was in the middle of texting someone. This included, but is probably not limited to: volume change, pulling up a random number on the dialer, open another app, etc. Not only was this incredibly annoying, but also caused me to call a number or two that I did not want to.
4) The speaker on the back of the phone was completely blown out. Much like someone playing their music too loud in a car, the speaker on the back of that phone completely blew out on me. This caused me to never be able to use speaker phone to talk to someone, since their voice would sound like the garbled noises of the people on the other end of a phone call in an old cartoon. It also affected my use of GPS and Navigation apps for my delivery job, as the lady's voice was unintelligible.
5) Several of my apps ran like trying to play Doom 3 on a 90's computer. I'd open them, and it would be slow and laggy, making the app or game completely useless.
6) Although again minor, a few of the buttons on the keyboard were unresponsive at times.
I'm sure I'm missing something, as I cannot remember absolutely every problem I've had with this phone. This fee that you are apparently trying to charge me is completely uncalled for. Let me tell you the experience I've had with that Chinese made pile of garbage that Motorola is trying to pass off as a cell phone. First, I got the phone in July of 2011, I believe. I was working in construction at the time. I had the R2D2 Droid before that, and had to replace it when I dropped it and the screen was completely useless. Although I had very little money, and apparently had my "upgrade bonus" taken away by some bogus charge that went along with an upgrade at the store, I got a new phone. By the way, I think it's pretty cheap and bad business to give your paying customers an upgrade opportunity and then take it away when they go to get a new phone because of some fee at the store. What a scam that is. Anyway, I chose the Motorola Droid 4 because it had the slide out keyboard, which I wanted because I still was not into the whole touch keypad thing. I had to pay more than $200 out of my pocket for this phone, if my memory serves me right. At that moment, I had to dip into funds that were not only not mine, but were also supposed to be for something special in the future. But, I needed a phone ASAP, so I spent everything I had to get this phone. Within a month of owning it, the whole thing stopped working. I brought it back to the store, they initiated a replacement, and I soon got my "like new" replacement in the mail. Now, the fact that I had just spent a ton of money on a NEW phone, and within a month had to have it replaced with a "LIKE NEW" one really angered me. However, I let it go. I figured the "like new" would be just fine. That was up until the day it went black, as if I had shut it off (only I didn't), and then it never came back on. Nothing I, nor your people at the store, could do to it would bring it back. It was the second time one of these things had just stopped working on me. Once again, we went through the motions of getting a "Like New" replacement sent to me. Once again, I held my tongue about how much I felt ripped off by again having something that was "Like New" when I paid for something that was NEW. My third and final Droid 4 lasted up until the call that has now led to this email.
Now then, what I am trying to say is that this $299 fee you are nailing me with is  >>removed<<. Pardon my language, but it is. Not only can I not afford to pay you people $300 of my hard earned money right before Thanksgiving, my daughter's very first birthday, and Christmas, but I shouldn't be paying you or China another cent of my money for this garbage phone. I know exactly what "damage" may have been on that phone, and I know for a fact that none of that aesthetic scrape damage would cause the problems I had with that third replacement. I think it was Benjamin Franklin that once said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." Well here's your proof: I had multiple issues with these phones. From the time I got the thing, I've had problems, and have been paying for it ever since.
I am asking that this email be given to the highest person possible in your organization. I will be calling tomorrow, 11/7/13 as well and requesting to get as high in the chain as I can. Until I speak to someone about this, and see these pictures I was supposed to get, I will not be giving you people any more of my money. I am cancelling my currently scheduled payment to you as soon as I can. Verizon is the only wireless company I have ever had, and I had planned on keeping it that way. However, if we cannot resolve this issue, I will be discontinuing my business with you, and will make sure to make as much noise as possible with everyone I can reach physically and electronically. A ****** off customer can make a huge problem for a company if they have the determination to go as far is as needed. And trust me, I've done this before with companies, I will do it again.
I am also going to copy this email, and send it to other people within your company if I can find them. I am far beyond my limit of companies walking all over me.
Regards,
>> Personal information removed and post edited to comply with the Verizon Wireless Terms of Service <<
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That was a long letter. however this is what you do. Send a dispute letter certified return receipt requested to the address on you invoice and pay only the portion not in dispute. File a small claims court case for that $300 plus the cost for the filing, and the postage costs for that initial certified letter. but file the court case don't just threaten them.
This non returned or damaged in transit back to verizon is a scam, google it and cry or laugh.
Even if they provided photos verizon cannot prove the damage was done by you. Again show the court your "factual" issues not emotional issues. Verizon will contact you before court to work it out. Settle for nothing less than the amount removed from your invoice, and the filing fees and postage costs credited to your account. If not go to court. That simple.
http://www.bbb.org and file a online complaint.
Good Luck

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