BPM Process Sleep / Wait for long duration - is it feasable in SAP PI?

Hi
We have a business requirement where based on a particular date in the future, we require a message we receive to "wait" until that date before it can bed processed (several weeks/months).
I understand that there is a "wait" step in CCBPM - has anybody had any experience with using this step for "long running processes".
When using this, is SAP PI intelligent enough to "sleep" and free resources for this process until the date arrives in the wait step?
What happens with other messages hitting the BPM and there is a process on a wait step? Can queing be setup that subsequent messages that are not on a wait step be processed ahead of the BPM sitting on a wait step?
Are there any other better solutions in SAP PI instead of using BPM wait for a long running transaction (several weeks)?
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
AFAIK it's an anti pattern to run a process over such a long time.
Here it's said that at should not longer run than a few days:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/43/d92e428819da2ce10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
But even a day is quite a long time.
All informations of the process must get stored and it's very memory consuming specially if you expext a lot process instances.
It would try to avoid this situation.
Regards
Patrick

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