BPM with integration Scenario

Hi Folks,
    I have designed a BPM scenario. Every thing is done but I dont know how to create a integration scenario when we are using an Integration process. My scenario is a simple BPM merge scenario. I have 2 messages as input and merging those messages into one as the input. I have 6 message interfaces like :
MSG_OB_ASYNC_1       -    Outbound Interface 1
MSG_OB_ASYNC_2       -    Outbound Interface 1
MSG_IB_ASYNC             -    Inbound Interface
MSG_AB_ASYNC_1       -    Abstract Interface
MSG_AB_ASYNC_2       -    Abstract Interface
MSG_AB_ASYNC_3       -    Abstract Interface
Kindly suggest the solution.
Regards,
   Santosh

Hi Santosh,
Create 3 application components as suggested above and create the required number of actions based on the number of message interface.
Create two 2 Async connection . 1 sender to BPm and 2 BPM to receiver.
the following will help in understanding the integration scenario designing .
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/EN/88/7adb7a030b424b8ef29b99461e52a8/frameset.htm
regards,
srini

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> Can I make following understanding?
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>
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