BT Broadband - or total lack of...

I have moved home recently and had BB and Talk Option 3 package.  I moved to a new-build property on 20th Sept but ordered the 'move' way back at the end of August.
I was informed that both telephone and BB would be activated on 30th September.  The phone was activated on 24th much to my surprise and delight however, it is now 12th Oct and I am STILL waiting for BB to be activated.
I wasn't advised that the first activation had failed and therefore, when I did phone to find out what was happening I was told I had to cancel the previous order and phone back the following day to re-order - another 7day turnaround.
Because I cannot track the order online as hey 'I have no Broadband/internet connection!' I was telephoning the 'customer service' line getting different people/stories/promises each time I phoned.  The last time I phoned I was advised in no uncertain terms to 'not keep phoning because, well just don't...! We'll call you...' 
I am totally and utterly disgusted by the so called service I have received, the attitude of some of the call-centre staff (I am in CS myself and would get severely reprimanded for dealing with my clients in this way) and the total disregard for the fact that BT BB are in breach of contract.
I am now sitting here with a 'dongle' at great cost (NOT a BT one I can assure you) in order that I can track my order, my son can revise for very important tests/exams etc during the school holidays (Scotland) and that I can send/receive important emails to do with health matters and work...
Get a grip or at least, get off the monopoly so that other firms can provide the service that you don't appear to be able to...

Hi K4ffy,
I can check what's causing the delay with the broadband order and see what we can do to help, would you be able to email me your forum username and account number (or order number) to the email address registered on my profile?
Thanks,
Stephanie
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    Your order number is: VOL012-<removed for forum post>
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    Phone line starts(SL-N)
    Phone number: <removed for forum post>
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    Good news Your order number is: VOL012-<removed for forum post>
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    14th Aug 201:
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    YOU SUCK:
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    Hi Talktothewall,
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    David
    BTCare Community Mod
    If we have asked you to email us with your details, please make sure you are logged in to the forum, otherwise you will not be able to see our ‘Contact Us’ link within our profiles.
    We are sorry but we are unable to deal with service/account queries via the private message(PM) function so please don't PM your account info, we need to deal with this via our email account :-)

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