Budget check at SC level in SRM 4

Experts,
How can i implemet the below functionlity :
"Budget checking for multiples Cost Center and internal order Numbers". Do i need to use the 'BBP_BUDGET_CHECK'.
Plz let me know.
Rgrds,
SK

Hi Yann,
Appreciate your response.
Is it also same for Asset A/c assignment as well? The system by default takes care of the budget check , once SRM/EC is inegrated ?....
Any idea, in which table budget related data is stored in SAP SRM?
Once again thanks!
Rgrds,
SK

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I think it is standard function and no development is required.
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Raz Golan

Hi
Please go through this ->
You need to code the SRM Budget checks logic part by your logic and implement the same on the Customer fields using BADIs.
Use BBP_DOC_CHANGE_BADI (For changing Buget values) and
BBP_DOC_CHECK_BADI (For issing Customer messages to Shopping cart web page)
Budget availabiltiy check will take place in R/3. This check has to be set in R/3 as there is no specific FI settings in SRM for availability check.
This is customized in SRM when defining your backend system:
SPRO Path ->
Supplier Relationship Management -> SRM Server -> Technical Basic Settings -> Define Backend Systems
Manage column FI valid with "Real-time backend validation".
Function module - BBP_BUDGET_CHECK (The database table BBP_USRBDGT contains the value for the purchasing budget in the column AmountSpent.)
Are the below ones used while checking...?
PO create/change
FM - B31I_ACC_PURCHASE_ORDER_CHECK
SC create/change
FM- B31I_ACC_PURCHASE_REQUI_CHECK
FM - B31I_ACC_PURCHASE_ORDER_CHECK
For SRM standard Budget checks, please go through the relatd links ->
OSS Note 520717
Re: FM for budget check in ECS ?
Budget availability check
Purchasing-Budget Workflow
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm40/helpdata/en/4e/1d74eff196d64e880fd28d41d4502b/frameset.htm
Costcenter wise budget
Re: Cost Center wise Budget
Hope this will help.
Do let me know.
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- Atul

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HI,
Experts,
As i want to check the budget of a business partner / customer i am new to that can u please tell me basic information about budget check and pass the Standard transaction for budget check.
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Hi    Dinesh,
Thanks for your reply and can u send me the Budget check standard transaction and related tables and how he going to check his budget.
According to me:
1    In which table Amount is maintained for BP
2   How we have check the budget.
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Do you have any BADI or the good way to do the WBS budget check at SC line item level.
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Is there any way to do at line item level.
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Either use BBP_ITEM_CHECK_BADI or BBP_DOC_CHECK_BADI.
Note -> Please read the relevant standard SAP documentation provided in this case for using SE18 Transaction.
Please go through the following pointers, which will definitely help ->
Re: Reg the budget check in Shopping cart
Re: Budget analysis
How to implement the badi BBP_DOC_CHECK_BADI??
Budget check for service PO
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Budget Check
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/4f/b3e739e62b714be10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/de/237440116fd279e10000000a114b1d/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/4e/1d74eff196d64e880fd28d41d4502b/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/5a/af5eff85d011d2b42d006094b92d37/frameset.htm
Do let me know as well.
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Here is an exemple of the business case :
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ok well!
Brother system will only check the budget, when your availability control is active.
Further, as per your configuration, system will only prompt error message when your budget exhausted 100%. ok
please follow the same then let me know
check your WBS status is there avaiablity control active, when you entered the amount for budget/release.
also check the transacion "CJBV - Activate Availability Control "
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Hi Gurus,
I have an issue in the budget check for Purchase Order (PO).
I'm using the FM B31I_ACC_PURCHASE_ORDER_CHECK.
The case is next:
1 Item with 21 account assignment type AS and distribution by quantity:
ASSET_NO QUANTITY
1           1
2           1
3           1
4           1
5           1
6           1
7           1
8           1
9           1
10          1
11          1
12          1
13          1
14          1
15          1
16          1
17          1
18          1
19          1
20          1
21          1
All account assignment are for the same G/L account, fund, functional area...
The price for each item is $2,499.14, then total price is $52,481.94 (2,499.14 * 21).
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The system assume next:
Each item is 4.76% of total (result of divide 100% / 21 = 4.76190476...) but the percentage is rounded to 2 decimals.
Then it makes the conversion by the amount corresponding to each item:
($52,481.94 * 4.76) / 100 = $2,498.1403
Finally the budget is checked by $52,460.95 (2498.1403 * 21).
But available budget is $52,481.90, the check pass, but really there are 4 cents missing (total price is $52,481.94).
Can somebody say to me if this is a standard behavior?
It can be fixed with configuration?
The problem is for multiple account assignment with distribution by quantity and:
(100 / quantity) = not integer (or have more than 2 decimals)
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1503317 - System Behavior for Account Distribution between SRM and R/3 system
When using distribution by Value in a SRM document this value is not correct and a rounding occurs once this document is transferred to ERP system.
Cause
It is not possible transfer documents to the back end system with distribution by value, due to a back end restriction.
Resolution
The following information is the system behavior in R/3 / ERP:
in R/3, there is accounting distribution only by quantity or percentage. So when distribution by value is used, a rounding will always take place.
in R/3, the use of value based distribution in SRM will lead to rounding differences.
Distribution by quantity is allowed in SRM and MM side. However MM do not accept is distribution by value. This is internally converted to distribution percentage based.
Keywords
Distribution by Quantity, Distribution by Percentage, Distribution by Value

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PR,PO,GR,Inv and Payment is related to procurement budget.and Goods Issue linked to Consumption Budget.
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thanks & regards

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