Buying new MBP, should I go for 2.8 or 3.06 (CPU)?

Hi,
I am going to get a new MBP 15''. Usually I get the fastest option available (I am a Graphic Designer). I am concern that the 3.06 could be running too hot. Can somebody tell me if that is the case? There is a noticeable increase in performance and/or temperature?
Thanks for your help!
Gus

So far as performance goes, you'll never notice the difference between those two processors.... you're basically looking at 2800MHz vs.3060MHz... a difference of about 200MHz. When you're talking about processors in the 3GHz range... 200MHz is pretty much nothing. Also, for processors in this range, that slight difference in performance "should" not amount to anything to more than maybe a degree or two. But since I don't have machines with both processors to compare and I haven't seen benchmarks yet... I can't say that with absolute certainty. It's a very hard comparison to make since temperature changes that small can vary from machine to machine based on the smallest variations. You would have to compare two identical machines (less the processor)... under identical loads... under identical fan speeds (with those fans being at those speeds for identical times as longer or shorter periods would impact the temp as well).
If you're looking to get the faster machine and your only concern is whether or not the speed and heat may be issues... I would say that they shouldn't be. The speed and heat differences would be nominal.

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