BW Architecture - SURVEY - key figures data model vs account data model

Hi SAP Gurus,
Between the keys figures data model, and the account data model which one do you implement/prefer and for which reason ?
Thanks,
Greg
Edited by: Greg C. on Jun 4, 2009 5:56 PM

I once found the note 407563 on this subject. It gives the advantages and disadvantages from the point of view of data modelling and from the technical point of view.
It's a BPS note, but manly valid in a BW context.
Regards,
Fred

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I dont know details about your infoobjects design tech aspects. Hence, I propose that what will work. You can adjust your design accordingly.
I encountered a problem while working with dates determined as key figure attribute.
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I am working with a standard business content IC that has the key figure InfoObjects defined as type date. When I double click on the InfoObject to review the detail from tab 'Type/unit', I see that it is defined with the radio button 'Date', but the 'Data type' is 'DEC - Counter or amount field with comma and sign'. When I loaded the data to this IO, I would get a 732,163 for the value, for example.
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 This actually depends on ur requirment. if you want some calculation like processing time,difference.. etc.. with this Date infoObject then u have to use the Key Fig InfoObject.
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I have a key figure defined in the master data info object.
Now the values of the key figure are not getting updated in the info object after running the DTP.any suggestions as to why this could be happening.
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Rumi
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Edited by: Aparna.Ranganathan on Dec 9, 2010 6:17 PM

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