BW upgrade project thinking

Hello,
we plan to upgrade from BW 3.1 to 3.5. We are relative small instalation (2 FI infocubes)
Q1/ How long could take
- the whole project?
- the preparation for this project?
- the realization/test phase?
Q2/ which capacity should we have for this project - aplication consultants, basis people?
Q3/ should we consider also upgrade to 7.0 yet?
thx
igor

Hi Igor and welcome on board !
Take a look to these threads:
Re: BW 3.5 New Installation Import 3.0B Content
Re: Upgrade landscape
Upgrade 3.5
Hope it helps!
Bye,
Roberto
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We got an requirement to do an upgradation project for BW 3.5 to BI 7.0... This is the first time am involving for Upgradation..Am An BW Technical Consultant.. Can anyone one sugggest at scratch level wat are the roles should play by BW Technical consultant.. And Wat are the activities whould done by BW technical consultant.. An can anyone tell me.. How many SAP Consultants should involve in this Project.. i.e like how many Basis Consultants and how many ABAP Consultants should involve.. Who plays the Vital Role for Upgradation...
Can anyone send me the Documents Related for BIW Upgradation for BW 3.5 to BI 7.0.. If anyone send me screen shots related to BW Tehcnical Consultant work it would be helpful.....
My E-Mail - [email protected]
Answering Getz Appreciated,
Thanks & Regards,
Aluri

Hi
I have some checklist ,do not exactly remember from where i got it but its really usefull
There is no standard SAP checklist as it used to exist in 3.x for nw2004s upgrade and trust the master data guide available on market place is not upto the mark and expectations
So Heads up..
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You may wish to have a look at draft portrayed below,rest you learn when you drive
Lessons Learnt - Upgrade
1)Convert Data Classes of InfoCubes. Set up a new data class as described in SAP OSS Note 46272.
2)Pay attention to the naming convention. Execute the RSDG_DATCLS_ASSIGN report.
3)Run the report RSUPGRCHECK to activate objects.
4)Upgrading ABAP and JAVA in parallel may cause issues. If there is no custom development on J2EE instance, it is recommended to drop the J2EE instance and re-install the latest J2EE instance after the upgrade.
5)Apply SAP OSS Note 917999 if you include the Support Patch 6 with the upgrade or you will get the error at PARCONV_UPG phase. When you upgrade to a product containing Basis 700, the phase PARCONV_UPG terminates. You included Basis Support Packages up to package level 6 (SAPKB70006) in the upgrade. The job RDDGENBB_n terminates with the error RAISE_EXCEPTION. In addition to this, the syslog contains the short dump TSV_TNEW_PAGE_ALLOC_FAILED. The program SDB2FORA terminates in the statement "LOOP AT stmt_tab". An endless loop occurs when the system creates the database table QCM8TATOPGA.
6)Apply the OSS note 917999 if you get the following error during PARCONV_UPG phase: PARCONV_UPG terminates with TSV_TNEW_PAGE_ALLOG_FAILED
Critical OSS Notes:
819655 Add. Info: Upgrade to SAP NW 2004s ABAP Oracle
820062 - Oracle Database 10g: Patchsets/Patches for 10.1.0
839574 Oracle database 10g: Stopping the CSS services ocssd.bin
830576 Parameter recommendations for Oracle 10g
868681 Oracle Database 10g: Database Release Check
836517 Oracle Database 10g: Environment for SAP Upgrade
853507 Usage Type BI for SAP Netwaevers 2004s
847019 - BI_CONT 7.02: Installation and Upgrade Information
818322 Add. Info: Upgrade to SAP NW 2004s ABAP
813658 - Repairs for upgrades to products based on SAP NW 2004s AS
855382 Upgrade to SAP SEM 6.0
852008 Release restrictions for SAP Netweaver 2004s
884678 - System info shows older release than the deployed one
558197 Upgrade hangs in PARCONV_UPG
632429 The upgrade strategy for the add-on BI_CONT
632429 - The upgrade strategy for the add-on FINBASIS
570810 - The upgrade strategy for the add-on PI_BASIS
632429 - The upgrade strategy for the add-on SEM-BW
069455 - The upgrade strategy for the add-on ST-A/PI
606041 - The upgrade strategy for the add-on ST-PI
632429 - The upgrade strategy for the add-on WP-PI
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1. Read the Post Installation Steps documented in BW Component Upgrade Guide
2. Apply the following SAP OSS Notes
47019 - BI_CONT 7.02: Installation and Upgrade
558197 - upgrade hangs in PARCONV_UPG, XPRAS_UPG, SHADOW_IMPORT_UPG2
836517 Oracle Database 10g: Environment for SAP Upgrade
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4. Run SGEN to recompile programs.
5. Install the Kernel Patch.
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look at the RSRVARIANT table in SE16. If it is empty, then you will definitely need to run RSR_VARIANT_XPRA
program - RSR_VARINT_XPRA
OSS -953346 and 960206 1003481
7. Trouble Shootauthorizations
820183 - New authorization concept in BI
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i suppose its called SCM2007
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we all have own work at our desk also.it is not nesseccery for us to ans your qns.please dont say like this as you are saying.it is community you have to understand how can servive in community.please dont xpect here from anyone to spoon feeding to you.please support SDN.
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/b8d163a7-0301-0010-d9b0-98f692ea3c60
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/2e8e5288-0b01-0010-2ea8-bcd4df5084a7
Go through this link.I think you don't need any other doc.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/index.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/472443f2-0c01-0010-20ab-fbd380d45881
https://websmp102.sap-ag.de/upgrade-bw
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Presently i am on a support project.
What is the difference between the upgrade project , support project and implementation project.
Is it adviceable to work on upgrade other than support.
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Am implementation is introducing SAP where some other system has been working till now. Implementation requires deep knowledge of the business processes because you have to understand the existing processes of the customer and try to map them to SAP. It is tough because you have to deliver from end to end, right from understanding client requirement, interpreting it, being involved in change management, educating the client, data loading and so on. Thats the reason E2E implementation carries so much weightage in a CV.
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This doesn't work - won't work in simulator nor on a build. I suspect that the culprit is the upgraded project file. I made a new v4 project file and replicated these same exact scripts and behold! It works!
So I figured out that it's the upgrade project file that is the reason why these scripts won't work! Very disappointing.
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If you'd like to strip out the project assets (video and audio) and use .pict images as place holders instead, then send me the file (with the place holders), I'll happily take a look at it for you. It should be working fine, and I suspect there is something small we have both overlooked.
There are no real issues with projects from v3 going on to v4 where scripting is concerned - the scripts are identical. There will be something else going on here...
Just to be sure your scripts are:
mov GPRM1, 0
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then
mov GPRM1, 1
Jump SceneSelection1 // again, your actual menu name is in here
and
mov GPRM1, 2
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Then your final script reads:
Jump MainMenu If(GPRM1 = 0)
Jump SceneSelection1 If (GPRM1 = 1)
Jump SceneSelection2 If(GPRM1 = 2)
The first script is the start up item for the disc, the second and third scripts are set as targets for buttons on the main menu (which means the script is run before the footage plays) - the last script is set as the menu call and end jump for the track.
You are sure that you are correctly re-setting the GPRM each time you move between menus?
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If we modified some standard programs and transport between two different SAP versions, I think the programs can't work, right?

> 1. Is figure 5.3 in page 165 correct?
> I think it should be
> Temporary system: DEV 6.0
> Productive system: DEV' 4.6C -> QAS 4.6C -> PRD 4.6C
>
> 2. Is this transport route possible?
> "During this phase, you continue dual maintenance of the development
> systems. You also transfer changes that you make in DEV' to DEV, and
> transport changes to both quality assurance systems."
> DEV' 4.6C -> DEV 6.0 -> QAS 6.0 -> QAS' 4.6C
> If we modified some standard programs and transport between two different SAP versions, I think the programs can't work, right?
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Edited by: Alvaro Tejada Galindo on Dec 23, 2008 10:39 AM

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We are now proposing our customer for the 4.6c to ECC 6.0 Upgrade.
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Senthil
[email protected]

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I encountered the error like the Text Determination is missing in all the Documents like Sales Order, Delviery and Billing Documents in ECC6.
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Hi,
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thanks in advance.

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1. Provide a recommendation for use of NWDI within the Upgrade project.
2. Provide a recommendation for possible ongoing / expanded usage of NWDI at the project.
Please provide your suggestions.
Thanks.

Hi,
1. If you are implementing ESS/MSS you can upgrade the components using NWDI.
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