Can I image Lion clients from Snow Leopard server using SIU?

I have a new iMac Lion client I need to image to a number of machines, using Snow Leopard Server, but System Image Utility will not recognize the Lion client as a valid source volume? Has anyone else experienced this yet?

Images must always be created on the same OS.
You'll need to download the Lion Server Admin Tools onto one of the clients and make it your "imaging system".
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1419

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Lion clients with Snow leopard Server

Are there known issues with a Snow Leopard Server Mananging Lion Clients. I currently manage 40 IMacs in two labs
all running Snow Leopard, the only services I use on the Mac Server are Open Directiory, Print Services, AFP, and FireWall services
the Server is a Mac PRo with 2x3.2 Ghx quad-Core Intel Xeon Processor and 32. GB RAM

Snow Leopard can't serve AFP devices to Lion clients out of the box. There seems to be a workaround, but I haven't gotten it working myself yet.

Server Admin. file sharing lion client to Snow leopard server

I'm running Lion on my client Mac and my Server is Snow leopard 10.6.8. I have to use Server Admin 10.7 on Lion but there is no "File Sharing" tab to set up or edit the file sharing options on my 10.6 server?. I understand this is correct for Lion Server, but how do I get round it for Snow leopard Server?? On the Apple website compatibility page (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1822) it states:
"Mac OS X Server v10.6
To administer a Mac OS X Server v10.6-based server, you can use the Server Admin Tools 10.6 on a Mac OS X v10.6 (client) computer. You should match the version numbers of the server, tools, and admin workstation as closely as possible; for example, use Server Admin Tools version 10.6.8 on Mac OS X v10.6.8 to administer Mac OS X Server v10.6.8. You may also use the Server Admin Tools 10.7 on an OS X Lion computer to administer Mac OS X Server v10.6."
So, How do I administer file sharing???

To configure File Sharing on a 10.6 server using 10.7 Server Admin, click the service (AFP, SMB, NFS, etc.) then click the Share Points tab.

Set EFI password on clients from Snow Leopard Server?

Hi everyone,
I would like to know if there is a way to set up EFI password over my 10.6 clients without use of an installation DVD. I have about 500 clients here and it will become a great loss of time set them one by one booting from DVD.. They are managed by a 10.6 server and soon I'll receive an ARD license.
Thanks in advance

Thanks very much.
Following your tip I've found that to enable password request the command is
sudo nvram sucurity-mode=command
followed by
sudo nvram security-password=<pass_code>
this sets a chosen password. To know the encoded version of our pass is sufficient use
nvram security-password
Now i'm looking for a way to reset both theese parameters for a rollback procedure.

Why can't brand new MacBookPro9,1 (OEM Mountain-Lion) boot from Snow Leopard on external drive, or internal partition?

Why can't brand new MacBookPro9,1 (OEM Mountain-Lion) boot from Snow Leopard on external drive, or internal partition?
Is this because of hardware changes? Or firmware changes? Or is it just and Apple Inc. administrative fiat?

@Steve Holton: Sorry Steve, but you're wrong about that one . I'm using 10.8 (purchased and downloaded) on the internal HD of this MBP8,3 (2.2 GHz, 17"), and I am also able to boot into 10.7.4 and 10.6.8 from external FW800 partitions.
However, I DO have problems with my MBP9,1. It came with 10.7.4 installed and ran fine. Then I purchased and installed 10.8. It ran fine but could no longer boot from 10.7.4 on an external partition. I then reinstalled 10.7.4 on the internal HD and discovered that it is still unable to boot (even 10.7.4) from an external FW800 partition.
One of Apple's Senior Support Advisors has done some remote troubleshooting but the case is still open and unresolved. An earlier Apple Support case suggested that when, I installed the downloaded copy of 10.8, there had been a "firmware update" (behind the scenes) that is now causing the problems with booting from my external partition(s). This apparently is "a bug": it is not what is supposed to happen.
So - I believe - "the problem" really has nothing to do with hardware capability. It is strictly about Apple's strategy for "managing its future customer base". If you don't like it - use something else - I am seriously considering Ubuntu as an alternative.
If there's a hidden caveat in all this it's probably "Read Appple's Licence Agreement VERY Carefully".

Complications migrating from Snow Leopard Server to Mountain Lion Server.

I'm migrating from Snow Leopard Server to Mountain Lion Server. The article "OS X Server: Upgrade and migration" (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5381) says
"Make sure that any DNS or DHCP servers on which your server depends remain running during the upgrade"
This advice is reinforced by the details of the article "OS X Server: Steps to take before upgrading or migrating the Open Directory database" (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5300).
As the server I'm migrating from provides these services it will need to be running during the migration process. This would seem to limit my options to doing the migration from a Time Machine backup (or, making a seperate clone of the server's drive and connecting it externally to the new box)
My main concern is the seemingly inevitable clash that is going to occur on the network as the new server takes on the roles of the old one - while it is still running.
What are my options here ?
This is my second attempt as on my first try I did the migration from the TM backup with the network down - and none of my local network users or their home directories were migrated, although the settings for the mount points were, but there were no actual directories where they pointed to!
Clear directions on how to procede would be VERY MUCH appreciated
Thank you.

Moving from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion means first installing the client (non-Server) version of Mountain Lion and then install Server.app this means that for at least part of the process you will not be running DNS, DHCP or Open Directory.
If you are going to end up using the same DNS name and IP address after the change then an approach you could follow would be as follows.
Destroy any Open Directory replicas
Archive your Open Directory Master (to make a backup)
Note down your DNS records in case they get messed up
Export via Workgroup Manager your users, and groups (you might not need this but better safe than sorry), make sure you do not include the diradmin account
Keep a full back of the server (you should always have backups)
Note down your DHCP server settings in case they get messed up
Note down any other service settings
Install Mountain Lion
Install Server.app
Install Workgroup Manager (extra free download)
Run Server.app
Make sure settings for services are as much as possible the same as before
If your lucky that may be all you need to do, otherwise...
Restore Open Directory archive, if your lucky that will be all you need to do, otherwise...
Make new Open Directory Master
Run Workgroup Manager
Import users and groups you previously exported
You will then have to set passwords for each user as these are not preserved via Workgroup Manager export
When I did this, I was also being forced to change all my IP addresses so I had no choice but to use Workgroup Manager to export and import accounts.

Upgrade from Snow Leopard Server to Lion Server hangs at configuring services...

I am running the Mac mini with snow leopard server 2.53 ghz 2GB of ram, 2x500GB hard drives, and have followed through the process to install Lion Server. The installation appears to be hung at the Configuring Services section of the setup process. I have left it for a couple of hours and nothing has progressed.
Should I leave it longer, hoping that it will work through the process (if in fact it is working through something)?
How long should this normally take?
As this is my work server, hosting mail, web, FTP, and file sharing, it is rather important to get it up and running as quickly as possible.
Any thoughts on how I can get it moving?
Hard power off of the Mac Mini reboots the machine, then proceeds back to the setup page, and then hangs on the same Configuring Services.
Any assistance would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

Lion Server Upgraders,
beware and proceed with caution.
Apple web site is naively optimistic on the upgrade process:
"To upgrade your Mac to OS X Lion, you don’t need to drive to a store, bring home a box, and install a bunch of discs. All you do is click the Mac App Store icon, buy Lion for $29.99, and your Mac does the rest. Just make sure you have what you need to download Lion to your Mac."
And then has a 3 step process...
This is completely miss leading.
Read this document first: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/lion_server_upgrading_migrating.pdf
It will make it readily apparent that moving from Snow Leopard Server to Lion is not going to be simple.
Having done this twice now.. I have found that:
1. Open Directory migration is a weak point. Lion & Snow Leopard Open Directory are not compatible, so if you have masters & replica then expect trouble. I have an unresolved issue trying to get a simple Lion Server to Lion Server Open Directory replica up and running. This compatibility seems to also cause migration to fail, as I found that all my local User/Groups transferred ok but non of the /127.0.0.1/LDAPv3 (Open Directory) ones did. This is a very important item, as all the mail accounts in dovecot use LDAP generated UID, so you have to be careful that you do not loose mail accounts.
2. Mail - your mail aliases will not transferred, so you will need to reapply the aliases.
3. Web Server Setup - This broke, under migration as I gather the entire Web serving tree has changed. In particular I had "Snow Leopard" Web Mail (which is based on Squirel) on my "Snow Leopard" Server and this is now dead...
4. Digital Certificates - I found that the valid (ie signed by trusted CA's) did not get migrated, so I had to re-imported my Digital Certificates. If you have paid for third party CA certificates then make sure you have got these copied somewhere, as if you loose them then you will likely need to go to your provider and get a certificate revocation and new certificate, which will cost you money!
Cheers,
Zebity.

Error configuring services from Snow Leopard Server to Mountain Lion Server

I am trying to upgrade a Snow Leopard Server Mac Mini to Mountain Lion Server.
We have two Mac Mini servers at our office (production and backup) so I migrated the everything from our production server to the backup using the migration assistant when setting up the backup computer.
I now have the backup at home trying to upgrade it to Mountain Lion Server. I have downloaded and installed Mountain Lion as well as the Server App version 2.2. I basically followed the simple directions found in the Apple documentation.
I started the server app and it got to the part where it said "Upgrading services". After running for a few minutes, I get a window that states "An error occurred while configuring your server." It also sayd "The following actions failed or were not attempted:" with a red dot next to "Upgrading services". The other three items: "Authenticating to local directory", "Reading directory configuration" and "Authenticating to local directory services" have gray dots so I'm sure they were not even attempted.
Our Snow Leopard server is setup for SMB file sharing, LDAP services, FTP, Web, DNS, DHCP.
Can someone point me to where I can figure out what exactly is failing? Are there specific log files I need to look into?
Thanks

Have EXACTLY the same issue - also tried reinstalling mountain lion server fresh and still had the same problem...

Upgrade from Snow Leopard (Client) to Snow Leopard Server

Hi,
can I upgrade from Snow Leopard client (10.6.3) to the Server (10.6.3) without having to reformat my disk and delete all the apps etc?
Thanks

Hi Michele,
Upgrading from 10.6 to 10.6 Server is unfortunately not possible without an erase and install of the Server OS.
If you want to preserve your Client OS initially, you could split the primary disk partition and install 10.6 Server on the other partition, then remove the Client OS partition when ready and reclaim the disk space for the Server partition.

How to access user data in Lion partition from Snow Leopard?

How do I access data residing on my Lion partition from the Snow Leopard partition, ie when I boot from the 10.6 partition?
I have an account on the Lion partition and one on the Snow Leopard partition, with the same short name.
But if I try to access the data residing on the Lion partition (under my user directory) from Snow Leopard , it says I do not have sufficient privileges.
How do I best solve this issue?
My user data basically all resides in the Lion partition, the only reason for keeping the Snow Leopard partition is a programme that has not yet been updated to Lion compatibility, and will not be for another two months. I have to use it daily (until the update).
TIA
Marc

That was too easy :-)
Thank you.
As an added quirk I had to open the package with the data files (by right-click, show package contents) and manually change the permissions on the four contained files. I had expected that to happen automatically when changing the packages' permissions.

Upgrade path from Snow Leopard Server to Lion Server

Just curious what the method is for upgrading a server currently running snow L. to Lion. Do you just buy the app and install? Will everything "reboot" exactly as is was? (Users, groups, share points, security settings, firewall, etc)
As you can imagine any changes to a server in an office environment can be stressful.
Also if anyone has successfully upgraded their servers to Lion and has feedback I would appreciate it.
- C42D

Hi there,
I would wait a little to have the early bugs in both OS X Lion and OS X Lion Server sorted out.
One common upgrade path i follow :
- Backup system disk
- Backup data disk
Why save both disk for an upgrade (as you already backup the data disk don't you ? ) and not only system ?
Imagine that once you update your server to OS X Lion Server, it updates some data too (mail database and so on) and you want to go back to OS X Snow Leopard Server...that would render your data unusable !
Regarding OS X Server in general:
- Backup Open Directory
- Backup Services configuration
Hope that helps

Downgrade from Snow Leopard Server to SL (non-server)

Is that possible to downgrade from SL Server to SL without making a clean install ?
I've just bought a standard version of Lion and I can't install it...
Thanks

Hi
You can't install Lion Server (which is simply the Server App) without installing Lion anyway. What this means is you can install 'ordinary' Lion on your existing Snow Leopard Server and provided you don't download and launch the Server App your Snow Leopard Server won't really be a Server anymore. Leastways not with any usuable 10.6 Server Administration applications (Server Admin, WorkGroup Manager etc) that you can use as these are all deleted/removed when Lion is installed.
HTH?
Tony

Can I install a version of snow leopard server on a newer Mac Mini model?

Hi-
I have Snow Leopard server running on a Mac Mini from 2010. I decided I really need some redundancy so want to get another and sync them in case of failure. Can I buy the latest Mac Mini model and install Snow Leopard server on it or will it not let me due to some firmware limitation? I've been able to do revert on other models and not others. Any thoughts?
Thanks.

****-So I have to find the latest Mac Mini that will run Snow Leopard Server? I refuse to upgrade to that crap they call server nowadays. It's Snow Leopard server till I move to Linux. Thing is, those Minis cost nearly as much now as they did when brand new. I feel like I'm getting ripped off. Oh well. Thanks for the quick answer guys!

Why can't Firefox set permissions for Snow Leopard Server Web-Site Wikis

I've established a web-site for collaboration of planning for a state-wide NGO and a local citizens-government oversight commission.
I'm using Snow Leopard Server v10.6.4, to drive the web-site, which includes the use of wikis.
In creating a wiki and setting permissions, I find that I cannot set permissions for users or groups to 'read only' from the default 'read & write' while using Firefox. However, I CAN set them to 'read only' using Safari. And, once the permission has been modified in Safari, THEN it can be modified in Firefox.

Solution found at http://michaeljin.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/locked-out-of-mac-os-x-server/
It’s blog update time! Updates have been a little scarce lately, been super busy with getting trophies on PS3
Anyway, recently encountered the following with a Mac mini server running Snow Leopard Server:
Despite being able to ARD / Screenshare the Mac mini, I was unable to get any further than the login window. Authentication credentials are obviously valid. No weird access permissions have been set. However, the weird thing was, I can connect to the server via Server Admin tools (from another Mac) and all other services were running without a hitch.
After much head scratching it turns out to be a sACL (Service Access Control List) issue.
This thread solved the mystery!
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1654864
To save you the trouble, I’ll lay it out here. I cannot take credit for this, but Randall can!
Open Server Admin on a computer (any), and connect with the local admin to the machine.
Select the server and authenticate.
Select Settings, then go to Access. You’ll want to make sure that Login Window and SSH have the local admin account listed if you select the option to “Allow only these users”. For now, I would suggest making sure all services have “Allow all users and groups” selected.
If (as in my case) it was set to Allow All in the first place, simply toggle the settings – back and forth.
Save.
Try logging in again… should be a good one!

Tiger PPC clients with Snow Leopard Server

I installed Snow Leopard Server (10.6.4) on an XServe.
DNS - AFS - DHCP are set up correctly and have been checked several times.
Clients have an AFP automount for network home directory. This share point is set up correctly as well and has been checked by Server's gurus.
Everything is fine for Leopard clients but when it comes to connect to the Server with Tiger clients (PPC 10.4.11) something strange happens :
- the first connection is correct and the home directory mounts normally
- when the user disconnects and tries to connect a second time the folder home directory is not mounted and therefore the user can't have access to his/her home
- although it's possible to mount the folder home directory using the "Connect to server…" command and then choose the user's home directory folder this isn't very handy with young students
I have done extensive researches on Apple's documentation and on the forums but nobody seems to mention such a problem.
Any idea what's wrong ? Already encountered the same issue ?
Any help would be appreciate

We have reported an automount bug which "may" be related to your problem to Apple. Our symptoms occurred in Leopard 10.5.8 and also in Snow Leopard 10.6.2 and resulted in user's seeing a message "You are unable to log in to the user account <account> at this time." This was due to an apparent problem in Mac OS X when reusing a share via automount.
In our case we found that the period of time during which login is denied can be reduced by editing the file /etc/autofs.conf on the Mac and reducing the value of AUTOMOUNT_TIMEOUT.
Hope this helps.

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