Can't see Target Disk Mode

hi - i've had a serious system issue (performed a software update and found myself in darwin mode) which i've been trying (/sbin/ and DU repairs) unsuccessfully resolve. i've resigned myself (because of the two "illegal name" errors which keep cropping up) to disk warrior (fingers crossed) and/or the genius bar. before my visit, i'm attempting to back up the old, problematic HD to my powerbook via firewire/target mode and i can't seem to see it. any tricks to try? (i know the target mode is working b/c i was able to see my OS X install disk, but not the hard drive.) thanks in advance! cw

hi! well, ran file to give permission with DW and my comp ate it up (yummy!) but still only resolved to a blue screen (no Darwinland, but still no Macland either!) tried a few tricks michael coniff outlined in this thread: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=320663 but to the same end (static blue screen).
AND still no luck with target mode to back up (and the DW disk showed up so i know it's working). any other tricks up your sleeve? tried to figure out DVD cord. do you mean the DVI to VGA cord? if so, where does it go? i can find the male side, but not the female input on the powermac. pls. drop a line re. this if you can. thinking about dropping a line to michael above just to show him the console code i'm seeing to see if he can decipher. i'll bore you if you're interested, but since i'm way beyond the bounds of my initial “target” question, just let me know.
thanks for all - have a lovely evening! cw

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