Cannot Delete Client Variables
Summary: I have a logout page that deletes session and client
variables. When I execute the page, the CF debugging information
notes that all the session and client vars have been deleted.
However, when I execute another page in the same application and on
the same browser, that page's debugging info notes that the client
var stll exists. How is the server showing that the client var
doesn't exist one page, but exists on another? (I am using CF MX
Version: 6,1,0,63958)
*****Here's the code I use to delete the client and session
vars
<!--- Delete session variables --->
<cfapplication
name="SteadyApp"
sessionmanagement="yes"
sessiontimeout="#createTimeSpan(0,0,0,0)#">
<!--- Delete client variables --->
<cfset DelteVar = DeleteClientVariable("userID")>
*****Here's the code from my application.cfm page:
<cfapplication
name = "SteadyApplication"
clientmanagement = "Yes"
clientstorage="SteadyDatabase"
setdomaincookies="Yes"
sessionmanagement="Yes">
Thank you in advance.
/AJ
I continuely have this same problem, so if someone has any
insight on whats up with this... please.
let me ask you this though... where is your setting of your
variable located? is it in the appplication.cfm page?
if it is this might be the problem. even though you are
deleting the var in your delete page, the application page is
present and will persist the var because ... it knows...
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