Canny edge detection, hough transformation....

Hello. My name is Thanos. Currently i am working in a project where i have to localize the pupil and the iris from an image. I use java to develop the program. As i saw from posts in order to localize the pupil you have to do the following steps:
1. Canny edge detection
2. Circular Hough transformation
3. Parabolic Hough transfom to remove eyelids.
I used those algorithms in some applets and it seems that they do the work i need.
The problem is that i can't find those algorithms written in java. And thats a big problem cause it is difficult and time-wasting for me to write them. So i was wondering if you know where can i find those java algorithms. I would really appreciate your help.
Thanx in advance.

Only what I found out when I googled for edge detection techniques once and found several helpful articles and tutorials.
You should try it. Google is a really great search engine. You can use it to search for information.

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Imperfections in the canny edge detection

There are imperfections in the area just inside of the detected edge. I have seen this in multiple programs and am only now looking for solutions. Thank you greatly in advance.
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Hi agator2,
To reiterate Taki1999's post, you can always threshold the image before you do an edge detection to try and get a more precise edge. Your image looks like it is fading colors from the darker color to the lighter color. The more you can threshold this image to more precise edges, the less imperfections you will have. I hope this helps!
Kim W.
Applications Engineer
National Instruments

Canny edge robolab

Hello everyone,
I am using robolab 2.54 for labview 7.0. I am currently doing a project which need to use Canny Edge Detection.
I am wondering who can manually write a Canny Edge Vi? (not using IMAQ)
The robolab does not provide Canny Edge Vi, but it has some Vi such as Gussian, Sober filter.
Please Help.
Thanks
P.S. I have looked Canny Edge tutorial page, the only thing I could not implement is "non-maximal suppression".
I cannot not download higher vision Labview to do my project since my lecturer will not open the project file (he uses robolab)

This is the advance pic Vi I can use, Just have a look
Message Edited by SHW on 05-21-2009 06:07 AM

Anyone has a canny edge detector vi that can be opened in Labview 7.0??

Hi,
Anyone has a canny edge detector vi that can be opened in Labview 7.0??
Thanks and many thanks.!

Hi aaz,
If you are using RoboLab I would suggest posting to the Lego Mindstorms Forums as
they offer RoboLab support. The screenshot I had posted was for
LabVIEW using the Vision Development Module (VDM). The VIs that you
are missing are part of the NI-Vision software which comes packaged
with VDM. Best of luck with your RoboLab application.
Vu

Use of edge detection in pattern matching algorithm?

Hello all,
I work for a group at Texas A&M University researching two-phase flow in reactors. We have been using IMAQ Vision and had a question regarding the use of edge detection in the pattern matching algorithm. I had seen the webcast entitled “Algorithms that Learn: The Sum and Substance of Pattern Matching and OCR” (http://zone.ni.com/wv/app/doc/p/id/wv-705) and in the webcast it was mentioned that the pattern matching algorithm uses edge detection to, (as best I can tell), reduce the candidate list further and to perform subpixel location calculations. However, I was wondering if this edge detection process is still performed if we do not use the subpixel location calculation (i.e. if we uncheck the “Subpixel Accuracy” check box)? Also, if edge detection is performed in the pattern matching algorithm is it consistent with the method described in Chapter 13 of the Vison Concepts Manual (“Geometric Matching”)? Finally, if edge detection is performed in a manner consistent with Chapter 13 of the manual, how does the geometric matching correlation number affect the correlation calculation that was performed in the previous steps? Are they simply multiplied together?
Many thanks!
-Aaron

Jeff,
We are using Imaq Vision Builder 4, with the included pattern matching that can be accessed via the menus (i.e. we haven't created a custom VI or anything.) We are using the software to locate bubbles during boiling experiments and want a deeper understanding of what is going on "behind the scenes" of the algorithm, as we may have to explain how it works later. We have been able to determine most of what we need from the webcast I had previously mentioned, except for the use of edge detection in the pattern matching algorithm.
At the scales involved in our experiments, subpixel accuracy is really not needed and therefore we do not use it. If edge detection is used in the pattern matching algorithm only to determine location with subpixel accuracy, then we do not really need to know how it works because we do not use that calculation. Inversely, of course, if edge detection is used during pattern matching even without enabling subpixel accuracy, then we would like to have a fairly good understanding of the process.
I've read most of the section on geometric matching in the Vision Concepts Manual and wondered if the process described there for edge detection (or feature matching) was also used in the basic pattern matching algorithm?
To summarize, if edge detection is not used in the basic pattern matching algorithm without subpixel accuracy, then that is all I need to know. If edge detection is used for pattern matching even without using the subpixel accuracy calculation, then we would like to learn more about how exactly it is used in the pattern matching algorithm.
We would really appreciate any help you could give us... we've been digging around on the NI website for a couple of weeks now trying to fit together all the pieces of the pattern matching puzzle.
Many thanks!
Aaron

Need help with selfmade Hough Transform in formula node

Hello everyone,
I'm making my own Face Recognition system and I'm at the phase of making a Hough Transform of my captured CAM-image.
So if a pixel is not zero; I generate its sinusoidal with -90° to 90° and calculate the corresponding value with the general Hough formula. Then for the voting process I increase the value of every pixel by 1.
Now the output is just a bit darker but there is no transformation at all.
I think I interpreted the algorithm wrong or I missed a detail in my coding..
Thanks in advance
Solved!
Go to Solution.
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I looked at your code and have some comments.
I looked at the Wikipedia article on the Hough transform. It appears that the definition in that article is somewhat different from your code.
from Wikipedia
for(i=-90;i<=90;i++)
{ Hough_Space[x][y] = Array[x][y]*cos(i)+Array[x][y]*sin(i);
Hough_Space[x][y]+=1;
} From your VI.
Note that the factors multiplying the sine and cosine terms are different.
The sine and cosine functions in the Formula Node take arguments in radians. The -90 to +90 in your code suggests degrees.
You may want to use a different threshold for creating the Hough Space array. The data is unsigned integer and the minimum value in your image is 25. So no pixels in your image are excluded and very few in most images will have pixels exactly equal to zero.
Is there a reason you prefer to use the formula node rather than the usual LV functions?
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Edge detection on a moving object

Hi
I have a problem on edge detection. I have a pulley of different types.
Pulleys where Dia is same, but height differs. Pulleys of different dia but the number of teeth (ridges) vary.
I need to identify one type of pulley from the other. I am trying to use the following logic:
1. Locate the base of the pulley (which is distinct) using pattern match
2. Define a co ordinate based on this pattern match.
3. Define edge detection tool using the co ordinate (this is where I am running into a wall)
I have used extracts of examples : battery inspection, gage and fuse inspection
I am not able to define the edge tool (Edge detector under vision assistant 7.1)
I am trying to use the co ordinates, since if the pulley moves a bit, then the edge detector appears away (in Vision assistant)
THE CATCH IS:
I have to do this in VB since Machine vision has to be integrated into existing vb application.
NOTE: attached image of pulley
Now can some one help me PLS
Thanks in advance
Suresh
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Hi Suresh -
I took your image and expanded the background region to make three versions with the pulley in different positions. Then I loaded the three images into Vision Assistant and built a script that finds the teeth of the pulley. Although Vision Assistant can't generate coordinate systems, I used edge detection algorithms to define a placeholder where the coordinate system code should be added.
I chose to use a clamp and midpoint instead of the Pattern Matching tool because of the nature of the image. Silhouetted images are difficult to pattern match, and the vertical line symmetry of the pulley makes it even more difficult to find a unique area of the object that can be recognized repeatedly. Instead, I generally find more success using algorithms that are designed around edge detection. I assumed that the "notch" at the bottom of the pulley will always be present in your images, so I performed a Clamp in the Horizontal Min Caliper to find this notch. The midpoint of this clamp section can be used as the origin of a coordinate system around which the following Edge Detection steps are performed. This allows you to find the teeth of the pulley no matter where it is in the image. (Note that the VA script was built using pulley with BG 3.png.)
The Builder File that was generated from the script gives you all the code you need except for the Caliper function and the Coordinate System functions. I added comments to these sections to show what type of code you will have to add there.
It may not be exactly the application you need to perform, but it should give you a solid starting point. I hope it helps.
David Staab, CLA
Staff Systems Engineer
National Instruments
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Pulley Teeth.zip ‏18 KB

Explanation of Edge Detection of Digital Images

Can anyone suggest the best links for the complete explanation of doing edge detection using java.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_detection
http://forum.java.sun.com/post!reply.jspa?messageID=4371954
If you have specific questions regarding implementing what you learn we will try to help you with those.
regards

Edge detection using IMAQ Find Edge/IMAQ Edge Tool 3

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I have several images with useless background around a rectangular ROI (coordinates unknown!). So I tried using the two VIs mentioned above in order to detect these edges so that I can remove them. Regretfully, this does not work as planned.
IMAQ Find Edge usually finds an edge, but not where it should be. The edge detection is earlier than I want it to be.
IMAQ Edge Tool 3 sometimes does not find an edge at all, sometimes it finds the edge perfectly. Here I use the 'get best edge' option, which delivers the best results with all the images I tested it with.
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Hi,
Can you upload an example image?
That would clarify what you're trying to do?
Most of the time a change of mindset solves the problem.
Kind regards,
- Bjorn -
Have fun using LabVIEW... and if you like my answer, please pay me back in Kudo's
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Edge Detection

I'm about to start working on an application that receives images from a wireless webcam (attached to a roving robot) and needs to process them to decide where the robot should travel to next. The processing needs to identify obstacles, walls, and doorways and guide the robot through a door into another room.
I know I'm going to need to use edge detection on the images, but don't know the best place to start. Any ideas? Also, if anyone has any experience with this, any idea what kind of performance I should expect? Given the limitations of the robot's movement, I will not need to process more than 10 frames per second. Assuming decent processing power, is 10 fps doable? 5?
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Edge Detection is basically a convolution operation. An image is simply a matrix of pixels. This matrix may be convoluted with another small matrix of values called a kernel.
// Loading Image
String imageName = "image.jpg";
Canvas c = new Canvas();
Image image = c.getToolkit().getImage(imageName);
MediaTracker waitForIt = new MediaTracker(c);
waitForIt.addImage(image, 1);
try { waitForIt.waitForID(1); }
catch (InterruptedException ie) { }
// Buffering Image
BufferedImage src = new BufferedImage(
    image.getWidth(c), image.getHeight(c),
    BufferedImage.TYPE_INT_RGB);
Graphics2D big = bi.createGraphics();
big.drawImage(image,0,0,c);
//Edge Detection
float[] values = {
    0f, -1f, 0f,
   -1f, 4f, -1f,
    0f, -1f, 0f
Kernel k = new Kernel(3, 3, values);
ConvolveOp cop = new ConvolveOp(kernel);
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dest = cop.filter(src, dest);Play around with the values in the kernel to get a better idea of how this all works.

Edge detection or gauging?

Hi,
I am working on measuring difference in diameter of small millimeter thick tubes when they are dry and when they are wet. I wish to use image analysis of labview and use edge detection to measure the change in diameter from the original state to their moist state. Can anyone please help me out by naming useful tools I can use to do this. I know of a tool called gauging but I do not know how it works? I was thinking of using pixels to measure the difference as these tubes are 1-5 mm thick in their dry (original) state and when they are wet their diameter only increase on scale of 10-100 micrometers. I have enough optical resolution in the images but I am lost on how to use labview. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You

Hi Ognee,
You could definitely use some functions from the Vision Development Module to find the edges of the tubes, and then use a Caliper function to determine the distance between those edges. I'd recommend taking a look at this tutorial about edge detection using the Vision Development Module. I hope this helps!
David S.

Refine edge and edge detection serious issues, getting blurred and lots of contamination

Hi guys :)
a few months back I bought a grey background after being reccomended as being easier to do compositing, I was really pleased but now I have run into some big issues and was wondering if you could spare a few moments to help me out. so I've taken the image of my model on the grey background, the model has white blonde hair, simillar to this image here, http://ophelias-overdose.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=192#/d393ia7.
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I just keep getting this issue, even when I have tried editing a test picture from a google search of a model with brown hair! Still getting this issue.
this tool is supposed to be amazing, I'm not expecting amazing but I'm atleast expecting it to not look like a bad blurred paint job, with contamination.
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Hi Noel,
Thank you for the reply. I have attached some screen shots for you.
Im working with high resolution photos in NEF, I am trying to put the model into a darker background but i havent even got that far as I cant even cut her out.
Decontaminate doesnt seem to be working at all to be honest, it makes little difference when i check that box.
Im getting nothing close to the image of the Lion, thats brilliant!
This is the original image taken on a Calumet grey backdrop
And this is what I keep getting results wise, see around the hair there is still rather a lot of grey contamination and the hair literlly looks painted and smudged.

Edge detection not so great?

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Thanks,
Steve

that's why you have an edge detection brush and an edge detection eraser.. and several other parameters and controls that interact between each other and give you a lot of control. or a lot of headaches if you don't know how to use them.. to get the best out of your tools you need to practice with them, and, as i already said, the web is full of precious information, if you search for it...
try some video tutorials, you wouldn't imagine how many small great things are under the hood in a software like PS..
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Negative Edge Detection DI

Hello,
I want to read in several counter inputs in my USB-6008 but this has only one counter input.
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Greetings,
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KaHo Sint-Lieven, Belgium

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Regards.
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Hi! I dont hav a solution for your query. I m doing a project in Image Processing and need to know the pixel values for particular pixel at a given coordinate. Can u post the code for getPixel ? I dont know how to make the getPixel work. Please post the whole code.
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