Changing order shown in structure list
My clients want to change the order of the structure list. Currently when you open a Functional Location it shows the items in the Functional Location BOM first, THEN it shows any equipment installed at that Location.
My clients would like the Equipment to show before the materials in the BOM. Is it possible to change the order like this?
Maheee,
The order you state is not the order we see it in. We see
FLFL BOM MaterialsEq
We would like to see:
FLEqFL BOM Materials
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