Cinematized QT's always need rendering... why?

I experimented with every video output option Cinematize has and even the lowest resolution QT file with no audio requires rendering in my timeline. I have FCP 6, so it asks if I want to switch the timeline to match the clip, but still RED LINE. I've tried every easy setup! and i've customized my sequence settings to my clips... so WHY?!
Here are my clip settings: 29.92, 640x480, DV/DVCPRO - NTSC, pixel aspect = square. Is it the frame size? is it my powerbook? I have an HDV project that processes HDV footage fine... but not this!
I already trashed my preferences and fiddled with the sequence playback...
any help is much appreciated. Thank you
-A-

Cinematized QT's always need rendering... why?
Because your clips are not matching your FCP Sequence settings. If your Sequence settings are DV NTSC, then you need 720x480 (rectangular pixels) with the audio being AIFF, 48khz, 16 bit.
-DH

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