CK11n Calculation

Hi,
Kindly tell me how 'Total Value' is calculated by 'Fixed value' with 'Quantity' in Tcode CK11n ? Because Material cost is calulated by 'Material price' and 'Bom Qty'. If I put value in Routing(CA01) for machine and setup time and machine hr. rate in KP26 how it is calulcated in Total Value by all these items. Please explain me clearly.
With Regards,
Samrat

Hi.
I am explaining where I am getting still trouble in proper product cost calculation. Here we are using Multilevel BOM. In CK11n screen - Material overview, I am getting detail list of Material's BOM costing price which is not correct value. Material 1000018             123.71    final finished material
             1000018-750      123.71
             1000018-710      123.53
             1000018-050      123.53
             1000018-030      123.53
             1000018-010      123.53
              2292                  41.63
Here 2292 is the Raw material and its price is Rs. 41.63. If we want to calculate its Forge(Plant) cost will be in level 1000018-010 - 41.632.675(BOM Qty)= Rs.111.36(Material Cost). Here Foriging price is Rs,10/Kg aginst cost centre which is assigned in KP26. So Forge cost is - 102.675 = Rs 26.75
Total Forge cost will be = 111.36+26.75= Rs. 138.11 which is not coming. Only Material's cost price Rs 111.36 is coming. Forging cost and Total Forging cost is not coming. In Routing value is maintained against activity type "Machine". Still it is not properly reflecting its actual cost price.
   Kindly give me urgent solution.
With Regards,
Samrat

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