Clip in 16:9 from VOB to .mov via Mpeg Streamclip gets squished in FCE

Hello! This is a weird one, but I'm sure there's got to be a way -- any help much appreciated.
I've been given a DVD to edit. No raw footage.
- I used Mpeg Streamclip 1.9 to open the DVD's VOB files
- From Mpeg Streamclip, I exported to Quicktime using Apple DV/DVCPRO-NTSC compression. Here's the catch: The default size for that setting is 720 x 480, but that created a too-narrow, warped QT movie. So, I exported in 854x480 (16:9) and wound up with a beautiful mov file that looks just like the DVD. Clearly, our DVD was shot in 16:9.
- In FCE Easy Setup, I have chosen both DV-NTSC and DV-NTSC Anamorphic, but either way, once in the Sequence the footage is vertically squished down to a short & wide size. (Note -- yes, I began a new sequence and re-imported after changing easy setup).
- In hopes it was maybe just a canvas issue, i exported to qt -- still squished.
FYI, If I export from mpeg 2 in Apple Motion JPEG A at 16:9 my file is fine in FCE's canvas -- BUT it needs rendering. For this project I'll be doing tons of cuts and changes and I just can't have render issues. I'm considering rendering once, exporting and re-importing. But . . . there's got to be a better way I feel.
Anyone who can lend a hand, thanks in advance!!!

I May have found my own answer... From a reply to an older message, deeply burid in the archives. FROM NICK:
From the menu bar: Final Cut Pro > Easy Setup > DV-NTSC Anamorphic > OK.
Then: Sequence > Settings > Load Sequence Preset > OK.
I did this and the windows changed to 16:9...
Now, I assume I need to assign all 4:3 clips as anamorphic and position as necessary...
Hope it compresses and all... I have a Sept 1 deadline.
BY THE WAY... when I reread the manual after having been using FCP for several years now, it made MUCH more sense. I learned a bit about stuff I didn't know I had questions about... I suggest everyone do a reread once in a while... (or read it at least once if you never have)

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