QT with MPEG-2 component & MPEG Streamclip VOB sound problem

It's two separate problems:
1) I can view VOB file but no sound using qt pro 7 with mpeg-2 component downloaded
2) that same vid opens fine in mpeg streamclip and converts nicely to .mov
BUT mpeg streamclip only sees the vts011.vob file
how do i process the _2.vob file? also the _3.vob file?
i do want 3 separate .mov files so I can upload to BlipTV.
the first .mov file was 860MB converting from the _1.vob file.
many thanks

It's two separate problems:.. 1) I can view VOB file but no sound using qt pro 7 with mpeg-2 component downloaded... 2) that same vid opens fine in mpeg streamclip and converts nicely to .mov
Everything is working correctly. The QT MPEG-2 Playback Component, as stated on the Apple web site, is a "video" component. It allows you to play the "video" portion of MPEG-2 "program" streams such as found in "muxed" MPEG, MPG, or VOB wrappers, as well as, elementary M2V and MOV files. Whether or not the audio is compatible depends on the audio compression format used. For instance, a "muxed" MPEG file containing MPEG2/MP2 data would play both video and audio because the MP2 (MPEG 1, layer 2) audio is natively supported by QT while a VOB file containing MPEG2/AC3 data would only play the video because the AC3 audio format is not natively supported by QT. On the other hand, the same file will play both the audio and video in MPEG Streamclip because MPEG Streamclip has built-in AC3 support. Further, MPEG Streamclip has the ability to "fix" timecode breaks frequently present in VOB program streams and can bridge the gap between content consiting of blocks of audio and video data interspesed in an single, spatially synchronized data stream without an extertal timing reference to multiple track streams of audio and video data which are, more or less, in an "averaged" synchronization at the frame level in terms of an external time reference. I.e., MPEG Streamclip provides a bridge between one form of multimedia technology and another. Contrary to the popular opinion held by many novice users here, "not all video technology is created equal."
BUT mpeg streamclip only sees the vts011.vob file... how do i process the _2.vob file? also the _3.vob file?
VOB files are simply file containers which are limited in size to approximatly 1 GB each for DVD use. A single VOB may contain multiple "TITLES" (representing independent movies) or multiple VOBs may constitute a single "TITLE" (representing an single movie). If you load (import or drop) a single VOB into the processing window, then MPEG Streamclip will process the individual VOB file independently. If you load (import or drop) multiple VOBs into the processing window, it will process all of the files as a single file. In addition, if the single or multiple VOB file(s) contain multiple TITLES, you can set "in" and "out" points to re-save and/or process the contained TITLE(s) as independent movies. In short, you should probably read the MPEG Streamclip Help file to better understand all you can do with this very powereful (but free) application.

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