Co-product actual settlement problem

Hi Gurus,
I have a co-product problem. We have ML active.
We are going to use production orders in PP side but REM scenario in CO side. Under this condition is co-product usage effected?
Another problem is this, we have not a certain ratio between primary product and co-product. In the apportionment structure a ratio can be defined. With the creation of the production order, these ratios are going to be transferred from the material master to settlement rule.
During the production process, as I said before, the ratio is not realized, there are variances from the ratio. At the end of the period when we want to settle the order, the ratio is stable in the settlement rule. In other words, it is not actual, just planned ratios.
My question is this: Is it possible to change settlement rule during settlement in the base of realized production (101 movement type) quantities? How can we provide this, otherwise the result is not true in terms of actual costing .
Ahmet

Hi
I thnk you can specify a % in your settlement rule along with Source Structure
br, Ajay M

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It's not the button i mentioned. I was just trying to take u to the accounting document from the settlement screen. well just drill down the settlement screen and u'll get it. No big deal.
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