Collection of messages in BPM

Hi Experts,
Collection of messages in BPM is not working,IP is executing for each Idoc.Actually i have done the sceanrio Idoc to File,Here I am getting multiple IDocs of same type from R3 when run a transaction and i would be generate a single file for all the IDocs.For this i have changed the occurence of Idoc from 1..1 to 1..unbounded and done the mapping betweeen these two. i have done bpm just like as standarad bpm pattern "BpmPatternCollectTime".I mentioned the time as 1 minute.in transformation step i had mentioned interface mapping for 1..1 Idoc to 1..unbounded Idoc and the real mapping conditions of this sceanrio is carried out after the bpm. The Idoc's are generating from R3 with the time diffrence of 3 secs.So it should generating a single file what ever the no.of idocs populating within a minute.
In monitoring it showning for bpm, its trigerring for each incoming Idoc and procesing successfully.
For Ex: Two idocs are coming from R3 then BPM triggers twice
What could be the possible reasons for this or i have done any thing wrong.
Any ideas.., Thanks in advance
Cheers
Tiger Woods.

HI,
Try to Use Idoc packaging. also see the below links
/people/pooja.pandey/blog/2005/07/27/idocs-multiple-types-collection-in-bpm - Collection of IDoc to Single File
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm - collecting IDocs without BPM
/people/prateek.shah/blog/2005/06/08/introduction-to-idoc-xi-file-scenario-and-complete-walk-through-for-starters - IDoc to File
Regards
Chilla

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