Color management and printer dialog

When I print from PS CS-3 to my Epson R1800 printer I check "Photoshop Manages Color." I immediately get a question, "Did you disable color management in the printer dialog?" I am unable to find where I do this. Can anyone help?

The paths vary from printer-to-printer or even driver-to-driver for the same printer, but should resemble each other. So, for whatever it's worth, I disable this function for my Epson 1280 via:
Page Setup > Printer > Properties > Custom > Advanced. There, under "Color Management", I activate the radio button "No Color Adjustment" which I have come to realize means no color management by the PRINTER, without restricting color management by Photoshop. Do you find a similar route for your 1800?

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Issue with Color Management and Print Module

The is a repost per request from a comment on Julieanne Kost's blog...
Having sticky output settings can be useful but now that LR has a color managed workflow, it introduces some problems. For example, if a Proof Copy is created and edited to a particular profile, then that copy is taken into the Print Module, if the output profile that has “stuck” from the previous job does not match you have a problem. It would be nice if the behavior for proof copies would be to automatically match the editing profile or at least warn of a mismatch. And while it is nice to be able to create a Saved Print with all the output parameters, it would be helpful to be able to create saved sets of “Print Job” settings assuming that they will be consistent for a particular printer/ink/paper combination (and whatever “Print Adjustment” you have found to your liking) then easily applied to any image being prepared for output. Perhaps a “save setting” selection under the “Print to:” menu.

So what you propose is the templates are proof copy sensitive and if they are setup for profile A but the proof copy describes profile B, then everything but the template defined profile is honored? I could get behind that idea (but what if one selects multiple VC’s with differing profiles and goes into Print?).
That's pretty much it. It does get complicated quickly as you look at multiple VCs or (and I think we need to start making the distinction between proof copies and ordinary virtual copies) if you bring a mixture of PCs and VCs into the print module. I would suggest that the default behavior be to set output profile of the PC as defined in the PC and retain the "sticky" behavior for ordinary VCs.
I also think that having the ability to save a "Print Copy" may change what we need out of the templates and perhaps their overall function should be re-evaluated.
The VC name should show you the profile used for soft proofing if you have the overlay on. That helps too. My concern are those who work with these VC’s and the text overlay is off.
I'm not getting that behavior. The only place the copy name shows up in the print module is in the filmstrip header. Maybe I have a preference set wrong somewhere... Still, I'd rather the software take care of making the match rather than having to double check to make sure I haven't inadvertently changed the profile somehow (i.e. clicking on a template just to see how it would look on another size paper).

Turn off color management in printer driver?

Hello folks:
When I select an icc color profile in Aperture 3 in the Print dialog box, a warning pops up that says "Turn off Color Management in the Printer Driver." I have an Epson R2880, but for the life of me I cannot find a way to turn it off in the driver. Any thoughts? The Epson Printer Utility is also of no help.
Thank you!
--David

Understanding that I have not actually used ColorJunki:
-- A printer is always going to have something manage color. Either an ICC profile at the application level, or the printer driver.
-- The warning is poorly worded. It means "Turn off the PRINTER color management and let Colorsync manage colors." Thus on the greyed out screen you will see that Colorsync is selected.
-- To use a printer profiler you normally print a target sheet. Your software should tell you what settings to use.
-- Next you read the target sheet and the profiler makes you an ICC profile of your printer/paper combination. (The same process that Canon, Epson, Red River, Illford, et al. follow.)
-- You can now use your new, ColorMunki created ICC profile to soft proof your image as you adjust it and, finally,
-- You use that same profile to print. (Remember, the profile is specific to a printer/paper combination and you will still have to set Quality/Media correctly for the paper.)
By selecting the correct ICC profile on the first print screen, you automatically kill printer color management and, with a bit of luck, a good profile, and clement atmospheric conditions, you will actually get a good print.
Trust me on this, I have been getting great prints from Aperture for years. My only gripe is that AP3 no longer lets me at the color options which I used to tweak for my cheap and cheerful Costco paper.

CS5 Color Calibration and Printing Problems vs. CS3

We are migrating from CS3 to CS5, and i'm working on getting the printing right.
We are on MacPro towers, 10.6.6, with LaCie LCD Monitors and an Epson 2200. Calibration on monitors and printer done by EyeOne Pro and Profilemaker Pro.
Printing: In CS3, creating the profile was done by printing the appropriate Eye One testchart. It gets opened with 'no color management', and is printed out with 'no color management'. This way, the testfile is being printed as the printer prints, with no tweaks. The color adjustment controls (brightness, saturation, cyan, magenta, etc) within the Epson driver are set to Zero. Then, this print is scanned in, using the Eye One, and you get the profile of the printer.
Now, when printing actual files, 'Photoshop Manages Colors' is utilized, and the created Profile from Eye One is selected.
We have had great luck with this, matching screen to print. If a slight tweak is needed, then we could use the Epson color adjustment controls to modify slightly.
Again, we've had great prints consistently for years using this method.
Now comes CS5...
Printing. Trying to use our existing profile...
When 'Photoshop Manages Colors' and the Profile are selected, now the Epson color adjustment controls are greyed out. So, we lose out on the 'tweaking' possibilities. I'm a fan of profiles, but now i have absolutely no control after the fact.
Trying to create a new profile....
'No Color Management' is not longer available as an option in 'Color Handling'. So, now i can't even print out the baseline testchart without adding some sort of profile to it? If i would choose 'Printer Manages Color' for this testpage, I would normally set the Epson Color Adjustments to Zero to get this baseline print for profiling. But now, If I would do that, it's only going to be greyed out when i go back in and let Photoshop manage the colors. Sheesh...
To make matters worse...
I pull up the same testchart in CS3 AND CS5. We are on a calibrated monitor, using North American Prepress presets on both programs. Same monitor, same color settings, same file. AND the testchart looks different in each program. Similar, but definite differences in shades. Eyedropper readings are the same for both programs.
So, CS5 is even rendering color differently on screen, and i have little or no way to create my custom profile or control my printer? Sheesh....
Any help or direction is appreciated.
Rich

thanks for the input.
I will look at the links you recommended. When 'Compensate for Scene-Referred Profiles' is unchecked in CS5, the monitors match. I'll need to do some research to see that that 'compensation' is, and what's happening.
As for the 'not considered a good color managed workflow'...
That's fine. But I would consider a good managed workflow using a calibrated monitor, and using a profile that matches the printer and substrate being used, right? When i plug in the canned printer profile in CS5, i get unsatisfactory results. With that 'correct' workflow, there is no way to modify what is ending up on the printed page. You get what you get.
Even if i back up to CS3, create a custom profile with the Eye One, run Colorsync/Profile all the way through, and eliminate the Epson Color Adjustments, I'm still obeying a 'correct' workflow, but what if my prints are slightly too Cyan? Or slightly too open/light? (granted, Profilemaker Pro does have a profile 'editor', but it's convoluted and extremely difficult to use. I've never gotten good results with it.)
If you have no way to do small adjustments at the back end on the printer, and it's been 'profiled' correctly, and the prints don't match calibrated screen with proper color spaces....
uh....then what do you do? which one is right? The screen or the printer?
I've had hundreds of images over the years go from screen to client (or press if we were controlling the print phase of the job), which then got printed, and have had basically 'zero' client issues with color. We have great color here on screen, from capture into post production.
But when my client wants a proof, in house, they want to see what they've been seeing all day in the studio and in post. How am I supposed to adjust my prints if a 'proper color managed workflow' isn't giving me matching proofs?
I sincerely appreciate the input here. I'm just frustrated, because even if my 'workflow' isn't technically correct, it's not without merits and I've had excellent consistent results that just 'worked'. Now, i've got to find a new method within CS5.

'The monitor profile "LCD color management and conversion" PSE6

Does anyone know how to correct this? I can find older posts but they date back too far. Where they say to go and what do has changed since.
The monitor profile LCD color management and conversion appears to be defective. Please rerun your monitor calibration software.
Everything dispalys in a cream color background and nothing prints correct color. I have PSE6.

todls1:
I'm guessing this message appears when you start the PSE6 Editor?
If so, what you should select is Ignore, and check the box to not show the message again. (Alternatively, you can remove the profile. If you wish to do this, tell me what edition of Windows you have and I can provide instructions.)
Essentially, you have a profile installed for your computer's monitor, either installed automatically by Windows Updates, it came with your computer, or it was installed with a driver (or piece of software) for your monitor.
This type of profile is "generic" and does not contain color calibration information.
Elements looks for profiles assigned to your monitor, because if the profile was created as part of a color calibration process, then that profile contains information that will help Elements to ensure that the colors you see on the screen are accurate.
Color is a complicated topic, especially when you introduce computer monitors, but suffice it to say that each monitor has various things that can make it display the same image in a way that's different from every other monitor. These things can include age of the monitor, the specific settings (e.g. contrast, brightness, etc.) of the monitor, and the lighting conditions in the room. When you calibrate a monitor using specialized calibration hardware/software, the calibration software creates a profile that tells programs on your computer (like Elements) about all these factors and how to compensate for them to ensure everything is displayed correctly.
Sorry for what may seem a long-winded explanation, but just understand that using the "generic" profile instead of one created by specialized calibration equipment has caused colors to appear incorrectly in Elements and are likely contributing to the problem when printing. This is why you should select Ignore.

Trun off Color management when printing

I've recently purchased some Fotospeed printing paper and want to get a custom profile for this. The instructions sent to me by the company only covers Elements 1 - 9. These tell me to select Print then, under Color Management set Color Handling to No Color Management. However, this option on longer is available in Elements 11. I've also checked your website for Elements 10 and it would appear that this option was still available in that version. How can I get around this in Elements 11?

Sorry, Barbara.
I could not imagine why one would want to turn off any color management and rely only on a paper profile ?
Here are the instructions to get a custom profile :
http://www.fotospeed.com/pdf/Download/Profiling%20Pack/Epson-CanonandHPElements1-9.pdf
My guess is that if PSE11 is set to 'printer manages color' and you have followed the instructions relative to your specific printer, the result will be equivalent to 'no color management in PSE'.
Really, it's up to Fotospeed to update their custom profiling process instructions.

How can I access my parents iCloud account remotely to assist with photo management and printing?

How can I access my parents iCloud account remotely to assist with photo management and printing?

I tried that without any luck. I was hoping I could get Apple to reset it for me or delete the account so I could recreate it or at least tell me what is listed as my birth date, the security question answer.

I am trying to print a color photo on my MacBook Pro from iPhoto (not using Photoshop) using Epson 2200 printer, and everything I do in the Color Matching and Print Settings results in a photo with a pink cast to it. What am I doing wrong?

I am trying to print a color photo on my MacBook Pro from iPhoto (not using Photoshop) using Epson 2200 printer, and everything I do in the Color Matching and Print Settings results in a photo with a pink cast to it. What am I doing wrong?

Have you checked the ink cartridges and made sure the nozzles are clear? Are you able to print from outside of iPhoto with the correct color?
Try the following: make temporary copy of the library and do the following:
1 - delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your
User/Home()/Library/ Preferences folder.
2 - delete iPhoto's cache file, Cache.db, that is located in your
User/Home()/Library/Caches/com.apple.iPhoto folder.
3 - launch iPhoto and try again.
NOTE: If you're moved your library from its default location in your Home/Pictures folder you will have to point iPhoto to its new location when you next open iPhoto by holding down the Option key when launching iPhoto. You'll also have to reset the iPhoto's various preferences.
OT

KB2909210 on Server 2008 R2 breaks my intranet sites and print dialog box

Let's try this again. I have been asking the following question of Microsoft and every time I do, I have only been told to try another forum.
I have several intranet sites that my users use for various data entry and querying purposes. I installed Internet Explorer 10 onto my 2008 R2 Terminal Server over this past weekend (10/18/2014) which also installed the Security Update KB2909210
and rebooted the server. On Monday morning (10/20/2014), when my terminal users logged into the sites, the sites began malfunctioning. All the dropdown arrows turned into question marks. Some fields which normally have a small "x"
on the right-hand side used to erase the data entered in the text field were also displaying as question marks. The objects still functioned but it was disconcerting to my users. The update also slowed down these same intranet sites to where it
began interfering with productivity. I activated Compatibility View for all intranet sites, but it did not resolve the problem.
I also found that when my terminal users tried to print a pdf document from the intranet sites, the print dialog box was jumbled and no fields were pre-populated with data like they always are when printing. I updated to the latest Adobe Reader, but
the print dialog box remained jumbled.
All of my users with stand-alone PCs have IE 10 installed and the intranet sites work fine. The sites display properly and process quickly, and the print dialog box is not jumbled. It is only my terminal users who log in from a thin client
to their profiles on the server and use the IE version installed on the server who have the problem with IE10. The KB2909210 Update is not installed on, and does not come up as, an update for any of my stand-alone Windows 7 PCs.
I uninstalled IE 10 from my server, but since this was one of my production servers, I could not restart it until after the plant was shut down for the evening forcing my users to suffer with the slowness for the day. This morning (10/21/2014) the
intranet sites are working fine through IE 9. I also had to revert back to Adobe Reader v9.5 as the v11 (and v10) print dialog box does not display properly in IE 9.
I do not want to stay on IE 9 on my server as IE9 gets more un-secure by the day and we've found IE 11, on any of our machines, to be too buggy.
How can I install IE 10 with its security updates and prevent it from breaking my intranet sites and print dialog box? What is so different about Server 2008 R2 and Windows 7 that IE 10 causes this corruption of intranet sites and the print dialog
box on the Server but not on the Win 7 machines?
The bulletin here:
https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms14-011
is useless for determining why it breaks my intranet sites. Nor does it explain why the update destroys the print dialog box.

Hi,
In my opinion, it's hard to say your problem caused by KB2909210. Have you tried to uninstall this update for test if your intrant site's problem resolved?
If your problem truthfuly caused by this updates, you can choose to hid the update as a workaround method.
Roger Lu
TechNet Community Support

Why "LCD color management and conversion" appears to be defective?

Why? How to fix it?

Apparently "LCD color management and conversion" is the profile that's associated (through the operating system) with your monitor.
The error message is because the color profile named "LCD color management and conversion" likely really is defective. Profiles are complex things and are not always properly crafted. This problem is surprisingly common.
Click Start, then type color management into the search box.
When Color Management comes up, click it.
Click the Devices tab to see or change what profile is associated with your monitor.
How did you end up with that profile associated with your monitor? The windows default is to use sRGB IEC61966-2.1.
Did you profile your display with a color measurement device? Did it get installed with your monitor?
-Noel

Cannot disable color management in printer preferences dialog

Hi,
I'm evaluating PSE11 on a MacBook Pro running OS X 10.7.5. I'm trying to print to an HP Officejet 6500 for which I have an ICC profile. When I set Color Handling to "Photoshop Elements Manages Color" I receive the reminder that I must ensure that the printer isn't doing that. After selecting the profile, I go to the Print dialog. In the Color Matching tab I can select either Color Sync or Vendor Matching. If I select Color Sync, I am presented with a list of profiles, one of which I'm expected to select, but no option to select none. (No, Automatic doesn't mean that the printer performs no color matching!) If I select Vendor Matching, then in the Paper Type/Quality tab there's a drop down Color Options, but there, too, there's no option to turn of color management in the printer.
This inability to turn off color management in the printer would usually preclude making a profile for it, since the profile targets must be printed without the printer performing color management. However, the company that made them for me supplies the targets as TIFFs, and Adobe has a utility, Adobe Color Print Utility (ACPU), which somehow manages to circumvent the problem. Is there something like ACPU either built into PSE11 or that can be plugged into it that will turn off color management?
Regards,
Richard

Your printer model may not permit the print driver software to be turned off. On higher end printers this option is normally found in the printer properties (color tab) which will have the choice of selecting Application Manages Color or grayscale printing. I’ve not come across ACPU for Elements.

Color Management and Canon i960 printer

When I go to print from Aperture it says to turn off the Canon color management driver. How do I do this?

It depends on the printer driver. My Epson driver has a special, color section. However my simple Canon pixma doesn't have this. It either automatically turns color management off (in PS and Aperture) Or you have to use a workaround (when printing form e.g. Illustrator) By selecting the sRGB profile in the colorsync tab.
So you're best option at this point is to contact Canon support: Luckily for you, they describe how to print using ICC-profiles on their website:
How to use custom profiles in printing
For printing using a custom, user-made or third-party profiles, follow the procedures below. ColorSync color processing based on the custom profile can be performed by the application, or by the printer driver.
1. Specifying an ICC Profile within an Application
2. Open the image you want to print in an application. Edit/retouch the image as needed.
3. Check that the correct ICC profile has been assigned, select the item that allows the application to manage colors, then specify the profile for printing. For example, from the Print or Print with Preview screen of Adobe Photoshop, select 'Photoshop Manages Colors', then select a profile as the printer profile. At this time, please clear the 'Black Point Compensation' checkbox.
The ICC profiles installed for Canon photo paper appear as follows.
Note: The profile names for other manufacturers' papers will appear differently.
(For example: Canon Pro9000 PR1)
(1) Printer model name
(2) Media type
Each letter pair represents its respective Media type.
PR = Canon Photo Paper Pro and Pro II
SP: = Canon Photo Paper Plus Glossy
MP: = Canon Matte Photo Paper
SG: = Canon Photo Paper Plus Semi-gloss
GL: = Canon Photo Paper Plus Glossy II
PT: = Canon Photo Paper Pro Platinum
Note: If your printer does not support one of the above paper types, the corresponding profile will not be installed. Please see the on-screen manual of your printer for supported paper types.
(3) Print quality
The numbers correspond to the numbers on the print quality slide bar in the [Quality & Media] dialog box opened from the Print screen of the driver. The lower the number, the finer the quality.
4. Select the command to print from your application to bring up the Print screen.
In Mac OS X 10.5 and 10.6, select Color Matching from the drop-down menu, and then select 'ColorSync'.
Note: If you are using Adobe Photoshop CS2 or newer and have selected 'Let Photoshop Determine Colors', the 'Color Matching' from the Print Options pop-up menu is automatically set to 'ColorSync.'
Using earlier versions of Mac OS X, from the Print dialogue, select Color Options from the drop-down menu, set 'Color Correction': 'None'.
5. Select Quality & Media from the drop-down menu. Set the Media Type and print quality settings to the same parameters as those in the custom profile.
6. Click 'Print' to print your image.
Message was edited by: Ir. Bob

Canon pixma pro 9000II printing - color management and resolution settings

1) is the printer color management automatically turned off when I select the paper in the color management profile drop down? Or do I need to do something else as well?
2) a little bit of a newbie question, but I'm wondering what resolution to select (for presentation prints) - auto or 300 dpi. And again in the print dialogue box (under "quality and media"), whether to use high or standard. Wondering what to match with what, etc.
Thanks.

The answer to the first question appears to be yes. ColorSync is automatically enabled, and Canon Color Matching is automatically disabled.
Some tips on the second question would still be helpful, however. Again, I'm curious about matching Aperture "print resolution" settings (auto, 300, 72, or custom) to the print dialogue "print quality" settings (high, standard, etc.) under the "quality and media."

Color management problems printing to Epson R2880 from CS3

I recently purchased an Epson R2880 printer. I am having a lot of trouble getting good color when printing from Photoshop CS3. I am running OS 10.4 on a G4 Mac. I have a high-quality monitor and an EyeOne calibrator. I have spent a total of a few hours on the phone with tech support from the store where I bought the monitor and calibrator, and with Epson. To try and keep it simple, I am using all Epson products (ink, paper, their ICC profiles downloaded from their site). I have calibrated my monitor to brightness: 80, white point: 5000 K, Gamma 2.2.
All that tech support has brought me to the point where prints I get on Epson Velvet Fine Art paper and almost where they match what I see on the monitor, though they still could use a touch more red. I've tried making a slight curves adjustment to the red channel but I still don't quite have it. But it's basically acceptable.
So then I tried Epson Premium Presentation Matte paper. After a lengthy session with the Epson tech, we determined that I can get a print that's almost right by printing out of Preview and letting the printer manage colors. If I make a levels adjustment and brighten it a good bit, I get a very good print. But if I try printing on that paper from CS3 I get something that looks like a washed out black-and-white print with a hint of color in it. The Epson tech (a level 2 tech) told me to use the SPR 2880 Matte Paper-HW profile. Didn't help. At that point he said that he'd done all he could do and that for further assistance I needed to contact Adobe about "advanced settings in Photoshop." Of course, I'd prefer to print out of Photoshop because it gives more options in terms of placement and size of the print on the paper.
So here are my questions:
- Is this kind of thing par for the course, and will I eventually figure out a system that gives me good results all the time with any Epson paper I choose with a minimum of tinkering with levels and curves?
- Or should I expect more from a printer that costs almost $1,000 and should I return it for, say, a Canon?
- Is there information online about those "advanced settings" the Epson tech was referring to?
- Or would I be advised to purchase a one-on-one phone consultation from Adobe Photoshop tech support to resolve these problems?
Thanks,
Helen

Mike,
Gee Ramón, I am guessing Mike did a search for Epson R2880/CS3 and noticed that a Mac user was having the same problem he was. If together, maybe Windows users and Mac users can come together and solve the problems of the Epson R2880, maybe we can set a good example for the Republicans and Democrats in Congress :-).
Anyway, since I posted this problem, I have been working on it getting input from a variety of people. The person who finally helped me was Jim, a tech at ColorHQ.com. If you are in the US or Canada and have to buy a monitor and/or calibrator, definitely consider buying it from them, because they offer free tech support to their customers!
So regarding yellowness, one thing that you definitely should look at is how you're calibrating your monitor. Despite some of the replies above that recommend calibrating to 6500K, ColorHQ, which specializes in solutions for the printing industry, told me that calibrating to 5000K is the print industry standard. (While 6500K is the standard for working on images for the web or for editing video.) 5000K will make the monitor look yellower, so see whether that's a better match to what you're printing. I have an Eizo monitor and am running their Color Navigator software. The nice thing about that is something called Color Navigator Agent that allows me to switch between calibration profiles on the fly if I'm doing some web work and then want to work on images for printing.
Calibrating to 5000K was helpful, but not the solution in my case. The ultimate solution to my problem was more of a Mac issue, so I don't know if this will help you, but I'll post it in case anyone refers to this discussion in the future: there evidently IS an issue with ColorSync Utility in the Mac interfering with Photoshop managing colors in OS 10.4. In my case, ColorSync was causing the printer to preserve RGB values rather than use the ICC profile. The afore-mentioned Jim suggested that I go to Edit: Convert to Paper Profile, then pick the profile from the list. When printing, in the first Photoshop dialog box choose Color Handling: No color management. All the other settings in the next dialog box are the same as when you don't want the Epson to manage colors. So what you're doing is making it so the profile is built into the file, and neither Photoshop nor Epson are managing colors.
The result to this was MUCH better. The soft proof is a little redder than the print, but I can adjust that by creating a curves adjustment layer and pulling down the red curve in the middle a little bit if I want to see what the print will look like. I can live with that.
Also Jim pointed out that those papers that you mentioned are in fact a little warm in tone -- put Velvet Fine Art next to a piece of ordinary copy paper from say, Staples, and you'll see the difference. He suggested that if it's the matte look I want (it is) that Hahnemuhle makes a couple of papers that are brighter: Photo Rag Baryta and Bright White He also likes Ilford Gold Fiber silk, but that's a luster satin finish. You can download the Hahnemuhle profiles from Hahnemuhle's web site and compare them in "Soft Proof" mode in Photoshop with the Epson papers you mentioned and get an idea of the difference with your images. I haven't actually printed on them yet, but I see what he means.
Good luck, and I'd be interested to know how it goes for you.
--Helen

Cs6- need to enable printer's color management in Print settings dialogue box

I have been printing successfully for months to my Epson R2400. Suddenly, I am getting a Caution Triangle with a note that says "Remember to enable the printer's color management in the print settings dialog box. I have selected Color Handling: Printer manages in the Photoshop Print Settings box. Where else would I make this change.

Just select Photoshop Manages Color, and the printer driver color options should be disabled.

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