Color Settings help

Don't know how many people here own a Dell U2711 monitor, but I just got mine and unsure as to how it works within PS CS5. Before I start, sorry if my writing is confusing, and forgive me if I'm being stupid anywhere, I'm new at this stuff. Anyway, my old ViewSonic monitor was profiled in PS as "Monitor RGB - sRGB"; working within the Monitor Color profile, I had no mismatches opening images with embedded sRGB. Doing the same thing on the U2711 however, gives me an embedded profile mismatch warning - that monitor is shown in PS as "Dell U2711 Color Profile, D6500". And here lies my problem...
Opening sRGB embedded images in North America General Purpose 2 profile on the U2711, the image looks desaturated, but outside of PS has normal colours. On my old monitor, those images looked the same outside and inside of PS in either Monitor Color or North America profiles. The difference in colour after PS editing and exporting on the U2711 has huge implications, as the image looks much more saturated outside of PS. I found two different solutions, neither of which I'm certain about:
The first is to use the Dell Color Profile inside PS and discard color management on sRGB embedded images, instead using the monitor's selectable sRGB preset for accuracy (which is apparently quite accurate); this eliminates colour difference outside of PS for me, but I can only embed the image with the Dell ICC profile. The second option is to work within the North America profile and simply proof with Monitor RGB (with U2711's sRGB preset enabled), and export as an embed sRGB image.
Basically my concerns are about accuracy; I don't know if I should soley rely on the U2711's preset representations of sRGB and Adobe RGB or if I need to calibrate the monitor again myself (it comes pre-calibrated). The images I am editing are for print and obviously I need to know if my editing will come out accurately. I realise this topic looks more directed to the monitor, but as PS is my only editing program they go hand in hand.
Anyone who can help me, please do! Thanks in advance.

So I also have a U2711 monitor, and after an entire frustrating night of banging my head against the wall trying to figure out the correct settings to take advantage of the monitor's aupposedly awesome factory-calibrated color, I think I've finally figured it out. This is based on quite a bit of research (from reliable sources) as well as some personal experimenting. Short of using hardware calibration, I think this is the best bet for the U2711.
By the way, I'm assuming you're running Windows 7, which has OS-handled color management. I'm not sure how you pull this off in Vista.
So I agree with your method of relying on the U2711's hardware calibration to properly display sRGB colors. In fact, it seems to be the best way. It seems that there are two ways in which sRGB color can be theoretically displayed correctly on the U2711:
(1) rely on the Monitor's management: disable/uninstall any software device profiles (uninstall the U2711.icm device profile from Windows Color Management), and set the U2711 to "sRGB" preset (on the monitor's OSD)
or
(2) use software Color Management: install the U2711.icm file as a Device Profile in Windows Color Management, and turn off the U2711's hardware management (set color mode to "Standard" Preset)
Theoretically those two ways will both give you accurate sRGB color, but in practice (1) (Monitor's management) works better because each unit is individually factory calibrated. The software profile (contained in the U2711.icm file) is imperfect and isn't tailored to your specific unit, so it will be off a little. In my case it made the colors slightly green.
[Aside: You should not combine the software/hardware methods (i.e., install the U2711.icm device profile in Windows Color Management, and also set the monitor to sRGB Preset.) This will give undersaturated colors because the colors are being corrected twice]
However, this method fails if you try to display Adobe RGB colors. The reason is because Windows 7 assigns a default color profile to devices that don't have one installed. It worked for sRGB because the default default is, you guessed it, sRGB. So here's the way you display Adobe RGB:
1. Go to Color Management > Advanced > WCS Defaults > Device Profile. Change it to "Adobe RGB (1998)"
2. Set the U2711's Color Setting to "Adobe RGB" Preset (on the monitor itself)
Voila. So it seems like as long as Windows outputs the colors in the correct space that corresponds with the setting on the U2711, you'll get correct colors (relying on hardware calibration, like before). Of course this sucks because you have to go in and change the settings in Windows every time you load an image with a different color profile... it would be better if we could just rely on the U2711.icm software color management which wouldn't require switching, but it doesn't seem to be as accurate from my tests. Also, this hardware method fails for non-color managed applications.
Thoughts?

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