Compatibilité CompactRIO et NI uSB 6211

Bonjour à tous,
voila je cherche à réaliser depuis peu le développement d'un pot vibrant. En naviguant sur le net et en cherchant quelques exemples je suis tombé sur un programme qui réalise exactement mes souhaits. Mais avec "compactRIO" avec un matériel donc différent du mien. Je voulais savoir s'il était aisé de pouvoir modifier ce programme afin de réaliser la commande de mon pot vibrant à l'aide de ce programme.
Je dispose d'un boitier NI usb 6211 et d'un accélèromètre dont voici les documentations...
Cordialement
Pièces jointes :
Shaker Control Source.zip ‏3005 KB
ICP 120.pdf ‏145 KB

Bonjour,
Les parties sur lesquelles vous vous posez des questions sont de la programmation FPGA et ce n'est pas possible avec votre carte USB.
Ainsi si vous tenez à garder cet exemple de code.
Il vous faudra coder avec des foctions DAQmx (driver de votre carte DAQ). Pour ce faire, je vous invite à regarder les exemples fournis avec votre logiciel LabVIEW.
Vous lancez LabVIEW => Aide => Recherche d'exmples => Matériel E/S => DAQmx
Je vous invite à tester différents VIs avec votre matériel.
De plus, je suis persuadé que vous pouvez trouver des exemples sur notre site internet : www.ni.com dans l'onglet recherche, vous tapez Daqmx et analog par exemple et vous aurez pas mal d'information. Il faudra peut être faire attention à ce que vous retourne votre accéléromètre (mV, V?) et ainsi réaliser une échelle adaptée.
Enfin, vous pouvez aussi bien utiliser le VI express DAQ assistant.
http://www.ni.com/white-paper/5467/en/
Cordialement,
Matthieu RICORD
National Instruments France
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J'envisage d'acheter une carte USB-6211, mais je lis que l'on ne peut l'utiliser qu'à partir de LV 7.1.
Or ma version favorite est LV 7.0, pourquoi ne pourrait-on pas l'utiliser avec LV 7.0 ?
Résolu !
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Bonjour,
Parceque la version de LabVIEW est liée à la version des drivers (DAQmx) pour piloter votre matériel.
La dernière version compatible de DAQmx avec LabVIEW 7.0 est la version 8.1 comme montré sur cette page :
Compatibilité entre les versions de LabVIEW et du driver NI-DAQ (Windows)
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Message Edited by Larry_6211 on 12-19-2008 11:24 AM
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Hi All,
I'd like to clear a few things up. First, you'll find that if you try to set the delay from ai start trigger and delay from ai sample clock to 0, you'll get an error. Due to hardware synchronization and delays, the min you can set is two. Note that when I say two, I am referring to two tick of the AI Sample clock timebase, which for most acquisitions is the 20MHz timebase. I modified a shipping example so you can play around with those delays if you want to - I find that exporting the signals and looking at them with a scope helps me visualize what is going on. The Manual has some good timing diagrams as well but it looks like you've already hit that. The defaults would give you a delay of 250ns from the start trigger - is this too high for your situation? What is an acceptable delay? I tend to think that "exactly the same time" is a measure of how precise rather than an absolute (think delays in cable length making a difference.)
With all that in mind, I see a few options:
Start your camera off of the AI start trigger (an internal signal) and just know it is 250 ns before your first convert.
Export the convert clock to use as a trigger. This assumes your camera can ignore the next set of convert clocks.
More complicated option: Internally you have an ai start trigger, sample clock and convert clock. From your start trigger to the first convert is 250ns but if you export your convert clock you're going to get future convert clocks as well. One option would be to generate a single triggered pulse using a counter (start with the Gen Dig Pulse-Dig Start.vi example) with the AI start trigger as the trigger for the counter, an initial delay of 250 ns, and a high time of whatever you want it to be. This should give you a singe pulse at very close to same time (on the order of path delays) as your first convert clock.
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Hi SaberSaber,
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How to use voltage signals as input signals into USB-6211

Hello everyone,
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I might use the wrong word to explain it. What I mean by observing the behavior of the device when it was programmed as shown in the code is that no matter how fast my triggering clock was, there seem to be a certain period of time when the device did not accept any trigger pluse. That period of time was about 50 ms or about 20 Hz clock rate. The code worked as I expected it to be at trigger frequency less than 20 Hz. As soon as the clock speed pass 20 Hz, the extra pulse was not accepted.
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Hi Mallori,
Thanks for the great reply message. I do appreciate your help.
Yes, I think you understand my application. The motor can turn from zero to about 5K RPM and one pulse is generated with each turn of the motor.
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I think I understand what you are saying about DAQmx_Val_HighFreq2Ctr using the resources from both counters That explains why I get the message about resources not being available.
I have tried to use Counter Method 1 and it *almost* worked.  A problem comes about when the motor speed is zero (stopped) and, since these motor pulses are being fed into the Gate of the counter, the zero value makes it simply time out. Increasing the timeout value to infinite (-1) makes the entire program hang. I need it to go on -- looking for other user input, reporting other data being collected, etc. If the counter is waiting for the Gate signal to rise to start counting and to drop to stop counting and do the calculation, it will not work since it just times out.  I went to this counter method (actually called counter method 3 in the DAQ manual) because then I am trying to generate the pulses of known period and send these pulses to the Gate.  Then I am feeding my pulses into the Source of the counter and letting it determine how many pulses occured during the "gate time". In this case, zero pulses during the "gate time" should be OK; it should simply report that zero pulses were detected and start counting again on the next rise of the Gate pulse.  I thought I could simpy adjust the length the "gate time" to measure my range of frequencies.
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Thanks, Mallori,
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