Concept of CO- PA cost center assessment

Hi Experts,
I would like to ask if you could supply me with more info about the concept of cost center cost assessment in COPA. Is this a standard procedure that must done? I am having my 1st SAP implem. and have been preparing too hard to get much info. as I can take about COPA. I have understanding about value fields an characteristics BUT I am having a hard time to understand cost center allo. and why do is there a need to do it (or maybe not). Aren't they supposed to be an automatic process (distribution of figures to COPA reports)? Thanks and I would understand if the question may sound a little unclear.

Hi,
The cost center assessment to copa comes in places only for allocating the common costs.
Generally, we do allocate the common costs from the common cost center to the respective user cost centers in the overhead accounting.
If the need is to recognise the common overheads directly in COPA, then instead of reallocating the costs with in cost center accounting, we directly transfer the costs to copa thru costcenter assessment to copa.
Regards
Sudhakar Reddy

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Can any one guide in this regard.
Thanks in advance
Sudhakar

Hi Sudhakar,
When you do the cost center assessment in COPA, you have given 2 characteristicsi.e product , company code and thru one value field.
When designing report in ke32 (report) and form ke35(form), we will give certain characteristics, so check what are the parameters has been given in the report, bcz values flown thru copa assessment will be available only in compaby code and product not for any other characteristics. I guess you have characteristics in report other than these two.
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Thank you for your response. But the real question is why is this process different between support pack SAPKH50010 and SAPKH50020.   In support pack SAPKH50010, we also uses document type SA with reference field required, but the cost center assessment is able to post to it without any customization.    Now, in support pack SAPKH50020, this no longer works.    So I'm just wondering if any of you have encountered similar issue after upgrading the support pack.
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Can anybody tell me what is the table where Cost center assessment cycle details like sender cost center,receiver cost center, assessment cost element, SKF etc... are saved?
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Hi dear All,
I got issues running KSU5 to allocate planned costs under cost element type 42. we were expecting that all planned costs (primary and secondary(cost element type 42)) could be allocated by credit cost center (actual). only primary costs are being allocated.
Scenario:
cost center planning (kp06) 1000 currencies in primary cost element in cost center A
running planning assessment - KSUB: cycle uses assessment cost element (type 42): sender cost center A, receiver cost center B (all planned values). assessment cyles posts 1000 currencies from CC A to cost center B
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by the period end closing, tcode KSU5 (allocation actual) is running. new cycle created, based on planned values (origini not actual, but planned amounts).
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result: credit actual cost center B = 500 currencies debit actual cost center C = 500 currencies.
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Hi dear Ajay, thank you for your answer.
first, I understand the difference between KSUB and KSU5, in the defined scenario, we have both. planned values, become actual with the MEC activities. business definition.
regarding the cycle, I have setup assessment cost element so we can get all planned lines posted as 1.
On sender tab I have only the cost center. no cost element defined.
receiver its cost center.
furthermore, i've not setup allocation structure, so all cost elements should be allow, there is no restriction on this.
the only difference is: planned costs which their origin is already an assessment are not being assessed again.
I can show you the print screens with cycles setup if it helps
best regards
MF

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Hi
What you feel is right as MMPV related to close the period for material document positing . To run the assessment cycle (KSU5) Co and Fi periods are required to be kept open.
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Dear Ajay,
Thanks for reply.
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Hi Gurus,
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Hi,
No it is not possible to transfer to GL Account from Cost Center. Assessment functionality is with in CO Module. In Internal Orders it is settlement and in Settlement Profile we can have GL Account as a receiver.
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Hi dear Ajay, thank you for your answer.
first, I understand the difference between KSUB and KSU5, in the defined scenario, we have both. planned values, become actual with the MEC activities. business definition.
regarding the cycle, I have setup assessment cost element so we can get all planned lines posted as 1.
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furthermore, i've not setup allocation structure, so all cost elements should be allow, there is no restriction on this.
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I can show you the print screens with cycles setup if it helps
best regards
MF

Cost center assessment

Gurus,
please clariffy.. Urgent
When I am creating assessment cycles, if I add ( in segments) senders are Cost elements and cost centers together what is going to happen? How the cost is going to be distributed? After running assessments, how do I check the values and how do I differentiate them whether they are from cost centers or from elements?
if I give combination of both cost elements and cost centers, what is the relationship should exist between them ?
regards
kumar

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