CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 0

Our database is 11g R2, below is our RMAN script
Presently our retention policy is 1, so 1 backup is retained along with the current backup.
I Just want to have 1 backup, i.e RMAN should take the backup and delete the old bacup.
Will it work if i change the retention policy to 0 ?
RUN
  ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch1 DEVICE TYPE DISK;
  ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch2 DEVICE TYPE DISK;
  ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch3 DEVICE TYPE DISK;
  DELETE NOPROMPT OBSOLETE;
  BACKUP DATABASE INCLUDE CURRENT CONTROLFILE format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
  SQL "ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG CURRENT";
  BACKUP ARCHIVELOG ALL DELETE INPUT format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
RMAN> show all
2> ;
using target database control file instead of recovery catalog
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1;
CONFIGURE BACKUP OPTIMIZATION OFF; # defaultEdited by: user10243788 on Apr 24, 2012 1:14 AM

user10243788 wrote:
Our database is 11g R2, below is our RMAN script
Presently our retention policy is 1, so 1 backup is retained along with the current backup.
I Just want to have 1 backup, i.e RMAN should take the backup and delete the old bacup.
Will it work if i change the retention policy to 0 ?You cannot set the retention policy to redundancy 0 because redundancy count must be greater than zero.
>
RUN
ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch1 DEVICE TYPE DISK;
ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch2 DEVICE TYPE DISK;
ALLOCATE CHANNEL ch3 DEVICE TYPE DISK;
DELETE NOPROMPT OBSOLETE;
BACKUP DATABASE INCLUDE CURRENT CONTROLFILE format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
SQL "ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG CURRENT";
BACKUP ARCHIVELOG ALL DELETE INPUT format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
}Just switch the order of operation:
use
BACKUP DATABASE INCLUDE CURRENT CONTROLFILE format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
DELETE NOPROMPT OBSOLETE;
instead of
DELETE NOPROMPT OBSOLETE;
BACKUP DATABASE INCLUDE CURRENT CONTROLFILE format 'G:\Oracle\flash_recovery_area\BACKUPSET\tmp\rman_backup\df_%d_%s_%p_%T';
You can also exclude the operation SQL "ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG CURRENT" because BACKUP ARCHIVELOG ALL implicitly switch logfile before archiving.

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    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
    new RMAN configuration parameters:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
    new RMAN configuration parameters are successfully stored
    RMAN> show RETENTION POLICY;
    RMAN configuration parameters for database with db_unique_name DDTEST are:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
    CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME:This parameter applies only to records in the control file that are circularly reusable (such as archive log records and various backup records) ref Doc:CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME
    1. Any condition is there to set the Retention Policy Recovery Window and Redundancy and control_file_record_keep_time?What is the relationship between these 3 parameters?
    2. Explain the scenario if i set the control_file_record_keep_time=4 Redundancy=3 and Recovery Window=7?
    3. If i set the Redundancy=3 and Recovery Window=7 means my backup place only have 3 copies of backup based on the redundancy then what is the purpose of Recovery Window=7 please give some example.
    4. If i change the values for Recovery Window=3 and Redundancy=7 what will happened, how many days backup will be available in my FRA location?Explain with one scenario?
    so i believe you can get the Answer from Your Question from Above details.
    HTH

  • RMAN RETENTION POLICY configuration.

    Currently I am doing RMAN backup once a day and save the copy to tapes through TSM. If I want to keep 15 copies of the db (NOT 15 same copies. It will be one copy from every day backup, so each copy will be different). How should I configure the RETENTION POLICY? Shall I do
    RMAN> CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 15 DAYS;
    Or shall I do
    RMAN> CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
    Also do I need to configure anything on the TSM side?
    Thanks.

    To keep the last 15 full backups use redundancy 15.
    You don't need to do anything on TSM if:
    - you use RMAN to backup directly to tape device and
    - you use RMAN DELETE OBSOLETE statements to purge old backups.
    See http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E11882_01/backup.112/e10642/rcmconfb.htm#BRADV8400

  • Basic question on setting Redundancy as the Retention policy

    DB version:11g
    I am planning to implement Differential Incremental Backup for my database. My strategy is
    Sunday -->     Level 0 backup
    Monday -->     Level 1 backup
    Tuesday-->     Level 1 backup
    Wednesday-->     Level 1 backup
    Thursday-->     Level 1 backup
    Friday-->     Level 1 backup
    Saturday-->      Level 1 backup
    Again, the new weekly backup cycle starts
    Sunday -->     Level 0 backup
    Monday -->     Level 1 backup
    .Retention Policy set to Recovery Window
    ==========================
    I understand What Recovery window retention policy means.If i configure
    'CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;' This means only those backups which are older than 7 days will be reported as obsolete when the 'delete obsolete' command is executed.
    Retention Policy set to Redundancy
    =============================
    But i am a bit confused about Retention Policy set to Redundancy:
    Does
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;mean that you maintain 3 copies of backups on different disk locations ? How does this fit in with my above mentioned incremental backup strategy?

    Thank you Centinul.
    If REDUNDANY simply means maintain N number of copies of datafiles then what does
    BACKUP DEVICE TYPE DISK COPIES 3 DATAFILE 7 FORMAT '/u02/orabkp/%U','/u01/oradata/%U';command do?Are they both the same?

  • Can i use the retention policy without using the Flash Recovery area?

    Yes ,lets see here
    RMAN>list backup summary
    C:\>dir *.bus
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\
    File Not Found
    C:\>dir *.arc
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\
    File Not Found
    RMAN> crosscheck backup
    2> ;
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    RMAN> list backup summary
    2> ;
    RMAN> show retention policy
    2> ;
    RMAN configuration parameters are:
    CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1; # default
    RMAN> run {
    2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
    3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
    4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
    5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
    6>   release channel ch0;
    7>   allocate channel ch1 device type disk format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
    8>   release channel ch1;
    9>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
    10>   allocate channel ch2 device type disk format 'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus';
    11>   release channel ch2;
    12>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
    13> }
    released channel: ORA_DISK_1
    allocated channel: ch0
    channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    current log archived
    channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
    channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=24 recid=79 stamp=652108461
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=25 recid=80 stamp=652112650
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:05
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
    channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
    input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
    F
    input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
    F
    input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
    BF
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    current log archived
    channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
    channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
    04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP comment=NONE
    Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
    released channel: ch0
    allocated channel: ch1
    channel ch1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    released channel: ch1
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
    allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
    channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    Deleting the following obsolete backups and copies:
    Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
    Backup Set           128    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       128    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
    Archive Log          79     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC
    Archive Log          80     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC
    deleted backup piece
    backup piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC recid=128 stamp=652112652
    deleted archive log
    archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
    OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC recid=79 stamp=652108461
    deleted archive log
    archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
    OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC recid=80 stamp=652112650
    Deleted 3 objects
    released channel: ORA_DISK_1
    allocated channel: ch2
    channel ch2: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    released channel: ch2
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
    allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
    channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    no obsolete backups found
    RMAN>
    C:\>dir *.bus
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\
    04/15/2008  02:24 PM        96,813,056 RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
                   1 File(s)     96,813,056 bytes
                   0 Dir(s)  61,960,724,480 bytes free
    C:\>dir *.arc
    Volume in drive C is khurram
    Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
    Directory of C:\
    04/15/2008  02:25 PM            56,832 ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
                   1 File(s)         56,832 bytes
                   0 Dir(s)  61,960,724,480 bytes free
    C:\>
    RMAN> run {
    2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
    3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
    4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
    5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
    6>   release channel ch0;
    7>  }
    released channel: ORA_DISK_1
    allocated channel: ch0
    channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    current log archived
    channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
    channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=27 recid=82 stamp=652112873
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
    channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
    input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
    F
    input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
    F
    input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF
    input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
    BF
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\RMAN_135_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting backup at 15-APR-08
    current log archived
    channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
    channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
    input archive log thread=1 sequence=28 recid=83 stamp=652112925
    channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ARCH_136_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
    channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
    Finished backup at 15-APR-08
    Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
    piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
    04_15\O1_MF_S_652112928_408XBKCZ_.BKP comment=NONE
    Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
    released channel: ch0
    RMAN> report obsolete
    2> ;
    RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
    RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
    Report of obsolete backups and copies
    Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
    Backup Set           129    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       129    15-APR-08          C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
    Backup Set           130    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       130    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
    Backup Set           131    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       131    15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP
    Backup Set           132    15-APR-08
      Backup Piece       132    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
    Archive Log          81     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_26_408X3HRP_.ARC
    Archive Log          82     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
    COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_27_408X8RXN_.ARC
    RMAN>Note: i have archivelog which is at FRA ,it also apply there and as well yours own defined backupsets path.
    Yours comments are wellcome.
    http://oraware.blogspot.com/2008/04/can-i-use-retention-policy-without.htmlKhurram

    Hmmm, I can't see where the confusion originates. The table near the bottom of www.apple.com/timecapsule/specs.html has one row labelled "For backup using Time Machine" and another row labelled "For AirPort Disk with a USB hard drive".
    The requirement for backup via Time Machine is OS 10.5.1 or better. Time Machine is not supported in pre-Leopard (OS 10.5) nor in Windows.
    The requirement for using Time Capsule as a remote disk is identified as "Mac with Mac OS X v10.4.8 or later" or "PC with Windows XP (SP2) or Windows Vista; Bonjour for Windows (included on Time Capsule CD)".
    Doesn't that pretty much spell out that Time Capsule works as a network drive without the need for Time Machine?
    Also Joe (the OP) never indicated any desire to use it with Windows so I'm not sure why all the discussion about Windows compatibility. ??
    Also the quote posted by Henry seems pretty clear:
    "Time Capsule with Time Machine in Leopard is the ideal backup solution. But that doesn’t mean Tiger, Windows XP, and Windows Vista users can’t enjoy the benefits of Time Capsule, too. Because it mounts as a wireless hard drive, Tiger and Windows users simply access Time Capsule directly from the wireless network for exchanging and storing files quickly and easily."

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