Connect two routers-wireless

Hello, I am looking around the forums and can't find and i'd like to know next:
I have two routers Linksys (wrv200 and wrt110). One on one side of the house, the other will be at the other side od the house. Questions:
- Is it possible to wirelessly connect second to frist
- Second willl broadcast the same SSID (wireless and other settings) as the first and will have the function of covering the signal on the other side of the house and outside, where the first virtually could not
- Which one of these two routerja recommend as the first (connect to a modem)
- What is all need to set athe first and second routerj
Thanks for help.

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1. Unplug the second router from anything. Connect a single computer to the router. Do not connect the second router to the first at the moment!
2. Configure the router at http://192.168.1.1/
3. Change the LAN IP address of the second router from 192.168.1.1 to a free address in your LAN (e.g. 192.168.1.2 should be O.K. if the first router is also a Linksys router). The address you change to (192.168.1.2) must not be used by any other device with static IP address in your network nor should be assigned by the DHCP server your network. A default Linksys router uses 192.168.1.1 itself and the DHCP server assigns 192.168.1.100-149.
4. Turn off the DHCP server on the second router.
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8. That's it! If you don't know or don't want to know more about networking you don't have to read the rest here.
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If the second router is not a wireless one, you basically have a few more ports in your network. In that case it might have been cheaper to get a simple switch/hub instead to extend your network.
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Why is this better than connecting the second router with the Internet port?
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1. In default Gateway mode the second router does network address translation (NAT). This means computers connected to the second router can connect to computers connected to the first router but not in the opposite direction.
2. If you use Router mode on the second router: you have to configure "routes" on the first router and possibly your computer connected to the first router so that IP packets find their way into the subnet of the second router.
3. You have two separate ethernet networks and thus two "broadcast" domains. A broadcast in the first router's subnet reaches all computers connected there. The same applies to the second router. A broadcast will never cross the second router, though. This is an obstacle for applications that depend on broadcasting to locate other computers and services. Windows file and printer sharing is one example here. With the second router in between, computers on one side do not know about computers on the other side. You cannot search your workgroup for the computer on the other side even when they use the identical workgroup name. You will be able to access the other computer using the IP address directly (e.g. \\192.168.1.100\share) but that's usually a hassle and the IP address may change if it is assigned by the DHCP server to the computer. There are ways to deal with some of these issues (e.g. save the host names in lmhosts files...) but all this requires more effort and attention to keep everything up-to-date.
4. Port forwardings become more complicated. If you need a port forwarding (i.e. you want a port on a computer in your network to be accessible from the internet) on a computer connected to the second router you have to setup two forwardings: one on the first router to the second router and one on the second router to the computer.
5. If you have two wireless routers: you cannot roam between both routers without loosing the connection. This is simply because if a wireless computers moves from one router to the other it needs a different IP address.
6. The whole configuration becomes more complicated: you always have to think about where to configure what, e.g. dynamic DNS service, access restrictions, ...
Bottom line: unless you have good reasons why you must have some computers separated from the other computers in your network, there is no good reason to in a home network to do so. For normal home networking with simple to use file and printer sharing it is better to connect the second router as suggested in this post...
Message Edited by gv on 08-11-2007 01:45 PM

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One router is connected to the modem which serves IP addresses to my hardwired and my wireless computers dynamically (used as a DHCP server for my local network). At another point in my house, I have a TiVo and a PS2 that I would also like to hook up to the home network, but rather than purchasing wireless cards and attempting to get them set up with the encryption, my plan was to purchase a "Wirelss switch" as an "Access point" that could hook to my original router wirelessly and hook these devices (and other devices) to it physically using network cables.
I thought I needed an access point so I traveled down to my local Staples and saw that they had sold out of access points. I also noticed that WRT54Gs doubled as access points and believe it or not were $20 cheaper than the one port Access point. Thinking this would be easy to set up, I purchased the second WRT54G and set on my way.
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Interesting that this thread was moved to the Routers forum. The meat of the question was really how to get a WRT54G to perform a wireless bridge to another since the packaging on the box implies that it functions as a Wireless Access Point. Either way, I think my answer is that the Linksys Firmware for a WRT54G does not include the wireless bridge capabilities that it's WAP brothers have.
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Remember: with a wireless bridge you create a single private network. All computers will be in the same network. Your neighbor will be able to access your computers (or at least try to).
Also: if you are using the wireless for clients (e.g. you have a wireless laptop) this will probably split throughput on the wireless in half as all traffic must be transmitted twice. Plus depending on the distance and the obstacles in the line of sight between the routers you may get a very slow unreliable connection.
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