Conversion of DVCPRO HD to HDV

I am currently editing a project on FCP using HDV format that was shot using the Sony HDV camera. I need to incorporate some footage that was shot on DVCPRO HD and has been caputured into FCP using it's native compression. What is the best way to convert the DVCPRO HD to HDV without losing quality.

Going from 100 mbps to 3.6 MB/s is going to lose quality which suffers more given the mpeg2 compression.
That can't be avoided.
Do a test with the advanced format conversion in Compressor

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  • How edit DVCPro HD and HDV footage in the same multi-clip project?

    Dear All
    I am to edit a music video material shot with two cameras. I received the footage as .mov files, but one file is a DVCPro HD 1080i50 codec and the other is a HDV 1080i50 codec. - It seems the music concert was recorded on two different cameras (I guess one was Panasonic the other Sony).
    How can I edit the music video using multi-clip editing? - I guess I will have to reconvert one of the footage-format to match the other format. If so, which conversion assures the best quality: from DVCPro HD to HDV or vice versa?
    Or should I ask for the original tapes and then import all as a HDV codec (is that possible with the DVCPro?)?
    I have never worked with the DVCPro codec before. So any links further explanations and tutorials are appreciated.
    Many thanks,
    Hynek

    Dear Tom
    Thank you for the tip. I converted the DVCPro footage into a HDV file and it looks good. The new file is only 9BG compared to the DVCPro file of 39GB. Quite surprising that such a down-conversion still results in a rather good quality.
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  • Compressing DVCPRO HD vs HDV

    Hello,
    I am looking for general impressions on the ease and quality of compressing a 720 30p recording in either DVCPro HD or HDV using the latest versions of FCP and Compressor. Will there be differences in quality encoding to a SD DVD between the two? Will one take less encoding time or require fewer work arounds? What about encoding to H.264? If I know the final output needs to be a SD DVD, am I better off working from a DVCPro 50 recording or down converting a DVCPro HD or HDV to maximize quality?
    Thanks, Drew Harty
    G5 dual 1.8 4 gig RAM   Mac OS X (10.3.7)  

    Thanks David. I'm aware of all this. For future extensibility, the MAC and storage I will purchase will accomodate anything up to Uncompressed 2K HD. However, for the near-term I will be sourcing only DVCPRO-HD (from the HVX200 via the options you cited).
    Let me rephrase my specific questions:
    1. EDIT: Given MAC/storage/monitor that will well accomodate uncompressed, is the *FCP edit experience* better with native DVCPRO-HD or uncompressed (though it may be counter-intuitive, the FCP manual seems to suggest uncompressed provides a better RT edit experience). Has anyone out there experienced both ways?
    2. AUTHOR to HD DVD (whether Blu Ray or 'HDDVD'): Is it easier/faster to go from DVCPRO-HD timeline or 10-bit Uncompressed 4:2:2 timeline to Hd DVD? Again, has anyone out there had both experiences?
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    moldy

  • DVCPro 720 24P to HDV

    What is the best route to write 720P 24 DVCPro footage to HDV tape. I know it is not the best and there are other alternates such as playing the footage out of my laptop however it has to be done. I need to get the footage on to HDV tape. Please tell me the steps.

    Issue #1 - as Andy points out, that deck records 1080i 29.97 only. No 720p. 720p is a JVC format.
    Issue #2 - That deck doesn't have ANY professional inputs. Composite and S-Video only. No component...no SDI. HDV decks are players only. HDV is simply NOT a mastering format.
    Issue #3 - Firewire output only to this deck really. For that you need to convert DVCPRO HD I-Frame 720p to 1080i GOP format...not the best way to go. Even with Compressor and everything set to best you get some weird artifacting. I have tested this out and have not been satisfied with the results.
    Shane

  • HD down conversion/HD file sizes

    I just have a few quick questions on working with HD, as this is my first time.
    First, if I am shooting in HD, but my final output will be SD, where does the down-conversion happen? Can I simply capture in SD, even though the footage is HD, or do I have to capture and edit in HD, and then down convert when I export the project to Compressor?
    Also, one quick question about HD file sizes- I have found that SD DV footage file sizes are roughly 4.5 minutes per GB, using the DVNTSC capture codec. I expected HD files to be much larger, but after capturing roughly 4 minutes of video, the files were less than 1 GB. The files were definitely 1920x1080, and I captured using the Sony HDV codec 1080i60. Could I possibly be doing something wrong or is that how it is? I was sure HD files would be huge.

    You need to be specific about what format of HD you are talking about here. There are MANY flavors. Uncompressed 10-bit, uncompressed 8-bit...both in 1080 and 720p options, then there is DVCPRO HD, XDCAM, HDV...but going by your last post I assume you mean HDV, the lowest form of HD.
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    Your final output will be what format of SD. Again...there are many. Digibeta, betaSP, DV. If your final output will be DV, then it would be advisable to capture the footage as DV. Other wise you will edit in HD and need to downconvert when you are done. Either a capture card (matrox MXO is good for HDV) or by dropping the footage into a DV timeline and rendering or via Compressor. But it would be easier to edit DV to begin with if you are outputting DV.
    Shane

  • Can't Play HDV 1080p24 Quicktime Movie - PLEASE HELP!

    I have a self-contained Quicktime file that plays fine using the Quicktime application on my computer that has Final Cut Pro installed on it. However, when I move that Quicktime to my computer that does not have Final Cut Pro, it says I don't have the proper codec. (It plays the audio fine, but the video is just a black screen.)
    Can I download this specific codec on my non-FCP computer so that I can play this file?
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    HDV 1080p24, 1440 x 1080 (1888 x 1062), Millions
    16-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo, 48.000 kHz
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    Thanks!

    Gonna have to look at a third party solution...
    #51 - Cannot view DVCPRO HD or HDV or ProRes on my computer.
    Shane's Stock Answer #51 - Cannot view DVCPRO HD, HDV or ProRes QT files on your computer.
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    If you need to view ProRes material, you can download the ProRes decoder (mac and windows compatible) for ProRes
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/AppleProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_forWindows.
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/AppleProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_forMac
    If your footage was captured as DVCRO HD you can buy the Calibrated DVCPRO HD decoder:
    http://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QDVCProHD.asp
    HDV, XDCAM? Calibrated has you covered too:
    http://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QXD.asp
    If you have MXF files from a P2 camera and you need to view the footage on a computer without FCP, you can download P2CMS from Panasonic:
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  • Playback dvcpro HD footage

    Hey guys, I have some dvcpro HD coded quicktimes and I can hear the audio but the screen is black. I have been looking for the codec to install on my mac with no luck. Does anyone know where to find it? My computer is not intel, is PPC tiger.
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    #51 - Cannot view DVCPRO HD or HDV or ProRes on my computer.
    Shane's Stock Answer #51 - Cannot view DVCPRO HD, HDV or ProRes QT files on your computer.
    The DVCPRO HD, HDV and ProRes codecs only comes with FCP. If your computer does not have FCP installed, it cannot view these quicktime files. It doesn't matter if it is a Mac or PC, without FCP installed, you cannot view these files.
    If you need to view ProRes material, you can download the ProRes decoder (mac and windows compatible) for ProRes
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/AppleProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_forWindows.
    If your footage was captured as DVCRO HD you can buy the Calibrated DVCPRO HD decoder:
    http://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QDVCProHD.asp
    HDV, XDCAM? Calibrated has you covered too:
    http://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QXD.asp
    If you have MXF files from a P2 camera and you need to view the footage on a computer without FCP, you can download P2CMS from Panasonic:
    http://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/p2-hd/downloads-and-updates.asp
    Or you need the other party to compress the footage into a format your computer can play, like H.264.
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  • FCP & QuickTime DvcPro HD Digitizer 720p 25 for PAL Big World Missing!!!!

    Now,
    after I've been days on DvxUser forum, tried various solution found there I'm ending up with a simple question as an HVX200 user:
    - What's the problem with the PAL Huge World, Apple? As far as I know my International clients when ask for an Ntsc copy is for US or Japan (the other few that use it are out of the big Business).
    - So WHY Apple, that is in the video/film business since the begging of NLE systems, always forget? or it's late in developping Pal solutions?
    From Panasonic Q&A P2 site:
    Q5 : Can the AG-HVX200 output the SD or HD signal through the IEEE1394 terminal?
    A : The AG-HVX200 can output the SD or HD signal through the IEEE1394 terminal according to the menu setting.
    Select the format in the "REC FORMAT" item of CAMERA menu.
    In the native format, 720/24PN, 720/25PN or 720/30PN, the AG-HVX200 cannot output the signal of camera picture through the IEEE1394 terminal. In this case, record a picture on a P2 card once and then playback it.
    When output the signal recorded on the P2 card, the signal is output through the IEEE1394 terminal in its recorded format and cannot be output through the IEEE1394 terminal in the up-converted format or the down-converted one.
    - The only easy setup for Log & Capture DVCPRO HD is 1080i50. That's it!
    - While in Ntsc has 1080i60 and all 720p: 24/30/60.
    Even with the Sequences setup!! Thanks to some guys that wrote a great pdf and also an Xml file for a sequence 720p 25 and 50...
    So the HUGE World of Pal users has to help themself....
    Hopefully if these 30 glorious years are just the begging, the next will be also HD PAL years!!
    piero

    Hi Shane,
    thanks for your point of view, I always appreciate your advices in this forum.
    Back to issue, the problem is Capture (digitizer) that is limited to 1080i50 not for Compressor (if you look inside the Capture Preset 1080i 50), so you can't use any other option than P2 card or Firestore to get the other HD Pal formats.
    I also want to share (may be someone else already did it, but as in latin "Repetita juvant") the link on that helpful site on FCP and DvcPro HD, and Hvx200 also. He has done a great job for all of us pal'ers:
    http://www.aulich-adamski.de/wp-content/720p50HVX200en.pdf
    So the points are:
    - The world is going HD? Yes! So our business!
    - ok Hdv has been adopted by major prosumer camera maker.
    - the DvcPro HD Pal codec is not that new (the Varicam, the 900, etc).
    - the HVX200 in just few months, as you can read on DvxUser forum, is very popular in all of the application (indie, commercial, music video, doc, feature film or tv series) and the results are very good.
    - Is FCP a pro application? Yes, so...support professional people.
    - It's much more easier to work in FCP with DvcPro codec than Hdv.
    - I've seen many posts of Hvx users that were asking for a live capture solution apart from Firestore and similar. We are in that group, as we've to shoot hours of live content.
    - The new Mac Book Pro cannot (by now) accept P2 Cards 'cause the express slot. So we were buying two of them for HD work but we put them on hold and keep the PBook. So the alternative for MBP is capturing live via firewire, but limited in Pal market.
    - Last but not least: Panasonic DvcPro HD Fcp plugin Frame Converter (for VFR) does NOT work in Pal even if you capture through P2 card.
    May be is also Panasonic that is slow in updating Pal tools, who knows, but the only other alternative (that you can find on the site above) is using a Component HD card to capture the other formats, that means that you have to carry in studio/location at least a G5...
    Finally, as I'm not a developper: does it take that long and is that heavy work to translate a QT digitizer codec from 24p to 25p? or from 60 to 50?
    I'm pretty sure that if you do an online poll for Hvx users to pay 5 euro each one to have that codecs done by some developper, they will !!!
    Take care,
    piero
    G5 2.0 DP FC Studio, PB G4 1.67, MacPro 2.66   Mac OS X (10.4.8)  

  • HDV capture card

    I'm looking for a capture card that support HDV camcorders, for G5.
    But it seems that doesn't exist any card: I found only HD or SD capture cards.
    The only HDV capture card that is able to native editing hdv video in realtime from hdv camcorders is the canopus EDIUS NX (and canopus velxus 300 in Japan); but the problem is that canopus hdv card is only for PC.
    I called canopus and they said me that these cards will be for MAC when Apple will release the new powermac intel-based.
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    "Native HDV Support
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    It all depends on what type of work you are doing...
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    Why do other pricier systems come with capture cards? Because they are sold that way. FCP, out of the box, is ready to edit DV, DVCPRO 50, DVCPRO HD and HDV...FULL RESOLUTION...no compression. Any need to do higher end requires a capture card.
    Shane
    "There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!"

  • Best Format To Archive DVCPRO hd footage

    hi guys. Ive just finished my first HD project a while ago. Now Ive got to store the Master program along with the stock footage but, im not sure which format to export it to. Ive tried Apple pro res (HQ) but when i play the clip back the interlace become much more viable on my HD Monitor and does not look as good as the original clip. Not sure if im doing something wrong, maybe there is a setting that i need to tick on or something not sure.
    Thanks

    thanks allot guys. u are really helping me! btw Andy i like your plug ins.
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    Anyway i did some test and got the apple pro res working nice and smooth. It was a stupid mistake from my side.
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    How to store my source clips.
    I came to the conclusion of taking all my source clips and paste all the usable pieces to the timeline and then compress them with QT conversion as DVCPRO HD (which is their native form) and save the 1 big file for later use.
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  • DVCPro HD in Quicktime

    Hey i recently captured some DVCPRO HD 1080I60 footage and then outputted it to an external hard drive so others can view it. The other system is a mac, but doesn't have FCP and cant open the DVCpro codec. I can only seem to find decoders that will work on PC's if anyone has any suggestions would be very grateful.

    #48 - Cannot view DVCPRO HD or HDV or ProRes on my computer.
    Shane's Stock Answer #48 - Cannot view DVCPRO HD, HDV or ProRes QT files on your computer.
    The DVCPRO HD, HDV and ProRes codecs only comes with FCP. If your computer does not have FCP installed, it cannot view these quicktime files. It doesn't matter if it is a Mac or PC, without FCP installed, you cannot view these files.
    If you need to view ProRes material, you can download the ProRes decoder (mac and windows compatible) for ProRes
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/AppleProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_forWindows.
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/AppleProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_forMac
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    http://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QDVCProHD.asp
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    http://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QXD.asp
    If you have MXF files from a P2 camera and you need to view the footage on a computer without FCP, you can download P2CMS from Panasonic:
    http://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/p2-hd/downloads-and-updates.asp
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    Or does VLC for Windows have a plug-in for HDV?
    All ears,
    Ben

    Just getting QT Pro won't do it.
    #48 - Cannot view DVCPRO HD or HDV or ProRes on my computer.
    Shane's Stock Answer #48 - Cannot view DVCPRO HD, HDV or ProRes QT files on your computer.
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    If you need to view ProRes material, you can download the ProRes decoder (mac and windows compatible) for ProRes
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/AppleProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_forWindows.
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/AppleProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_forMac
    If your footage was captured as DVCRO HD you can buy the Calibrated DVCPRO HD decoder:
    http://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QDVCProHD.asp
    HDV, XDCAM? Calibrated has you covered too:
    http://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QXD.asp
    If you have MXF files from a P2 camera and you need to view the footage on a computer without FCP, you can download P2CMS from Panasonic:
    http://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/p2-hd/downloads-and-updates.asp
    Or you need the other party to compress the footage into a format your computer can play, like H.264.
    Shane

  • HDV \ ProRes \ DV \ Canon T21??

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    5) Aja HDP (converts HD-SDI to send to DVI display)
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    7) ATTO FC-42ES (dual channel PCIe 4Gb/sec fibre channel HBA)
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  • HDV hardware for MBP

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    You are limited by bandwidth and what kind of drives you can connect to a laptop. DVCPRO HD and HDV are low bandwidth (DVCPRO HD is 100mbps and HDV is 35mbps) and can easily use firewire 800 drives for storage.
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    Glad to help with the HVX stuff. It took me 4 months of studying it and 4 days of shooting before we got the workflow down. And there is still a lot about the workflow that I am still learning.
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