Converting 23.976 ProRes to PAL 25fps.

I need to convert some 23.98HD ProRes to PAL SD.
I tried using Graeme Nattress' conversion software, but I find that there is a slight stutter where his software creates an extra frame - the 25th frame. He advised me to use Cinema Tools to create a file which runs 4% faster via the "conform" option.
However, I have no idea how to do this and can't find anything helpful in the manual.
Can anyone give me guidance, some sort of workflow or a page in the manual - in short, anything to assist me?
Thanks
Harry.

Thanks very much for the response and for testing.
So, once I have conformed and it is 25fps, then I convert to PAL, right?
But won't the conversion to PAL, either through FCP or through Nattress Conversion add the 25th double frame, or maybe there's an option for fixing that.
many thanks.
Have to go out now, so if you answer my question, I can only reply later tonight.
best wishes and thanks again
Harry

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