COPA assessment-reciever profit center

Hi there,
If in receiver of copa assessment cycle profit center being one of the receiver, will profit center get a debit and i will be able to see the cost in profit center/ or the segment consisting of profit center and other receiver will get a debit?
Thanks
Deepshikha

Hi,
Here i will explain you clearly.
e.g Cost center 1000 and assgined to profit center 1000
and your assessing to profit center 2000
you booked actual cost $9000 to cost center 1000 and profit center 1000
when you assess the posting like this
Cr:$9000 to CC 1000 and PC1000
Dr:$9000 to PSG and PC2000
postings are going to be in PCA also.
Hope this helps you.
Thanks,
Rau

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Thanks for responding, My error is coming when i am trying to execute the assessment cycle, In some segments, the tracing factor got multiplied by 10!
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Dear Paolo
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Can anybody send me a user manual of Distribution & Assessment Cycle in Profit Center Cycle.
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Hi Sandeep,
the only one we can provide is in SAP Help Portal:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/eb/13811243c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm
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