COPA in ECC

Hi All,
Can anyone please clarify me following:-
Is COPA a cube in "ECC"?
Our client needs data for consolidation purposes in Kahlix. Should we send it from ECC or BI. What should be the right strategy?
Thanks

Hi,
The prime objective of COPA- Profitability Analysis enables you to evaluate market segments, which can be classified according to products, customers, orders or any combination of these, or strategic business units, such as sales organizations or business areas, with respect to your company's profit or contribution margin.
The aim of COPA system is to provide your sales, marketing, product management and corporate planning departments with information to support internal accounting and decision-making.
CO-PA comes under APPLICATION SPECIFIC -> USER DEFINED DATA SOURCES.
There is no bussiness content data source for CO-PA because it is based on OPERATING CONCERN and it is different from one company to another.
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/COPA/COPA.pdf
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/1910ab90-0201-0010-eea3-c4ac84080806
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/903bb9b8-f15b-2910-8381-ab05bdcac2c1
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/fb07ab90-0201-0010-c489-d527d39cc0c6
In BW there are 3 Infocube's:
CO-PA: Published Key Figures
CO-PA: Quickstart (S_GO)
CO-PA: Route Profitability (S_AL)
Regards
CSM Reddy

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We are using ECC 6.0 and our client wants to archive data from COPA table's CE1XXXX,CE3XXXX and CE4XXXX. We are not using COPA planning.
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Hi Vijay Chandra
please check below links , this shows a detail explaination.
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I have a specific requirement, where we want to add open orders from sales to the existing COPA cube and also we want Existing Open order/sales pipeline reports in SAP to be moved into BI.
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Hi Viswanath,
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COPA vs New GL

I am looking for feedback regarding reporting, as we are trying to finalize our reporting design.
I am working with a SAP shop that uses COPA and FICO in R/3 (4.6C release) and BW3.5 and are upgrading to ECC and BI 7. As part of their project we have a desire to gain the ability to do ad-hoc analysis on "business line".
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Do not want to Post to COPA

Can someone please explain the value flow between FI/SD and COPA?
We want to stop certain type of Misc. Debit Memos from posting to COPA. A manual pricing condition is mapped to a COPA value field. The GL account used for posting this kind of Debit memos (the GL account assigned to Account Key in VKOA) is already removed from the cost element group which was assigned to PA transfer structure frm FI.
Does anyone have some idea what other settings we need to be change so the Debit Memo does not do a posting to COPA. Is the posting happening due to the mapping of Manual Pricing condition to the COPA value field? Do we need to remove it to stop the posting to COPA?
We are on ECC 6.0. Does the posting go to COPA at the time of Sales Order creation or Billing document creation?

Hi,
You need to delete mapping of Manual Pricing condition to the COPA value field as that is also one of the main component through which value flows from SD to COPA.
But I am agree that if you don't consider your some of the debit memos to flow to COPA, then you will not be in a position to get clear picture in COPA as per your FI P&L. Actually your FI and COPA P&L (Generally you develop in COPA as per your required structure of P&L) will not be tallied.
Pls consider the same before removing the same assignement from PA transfer structure and assignment from COPA value field to SD condition type.
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Scenarion of Delta Load problem in COPA Extraction

Please get me the solution for this particular scenario.
Let us suppose that i created the datasource some 1 year back and running the deltas successfully since then.
Let us number the requests from 1,2,3... and so on since 1st jan 2009. And let us suppose each request loads
some 1000 records everyday from ECC to BI.
Now on 10th august some change was made to ECC( such as change in the User Exit ) that caused the mismatch in number of data records ( loading only 950 records ) since the change was made on 10th August. But I identified the problem on 17th august with request number 160. Let us say those request numbers are 153(10th),154(11th),155(12th),156(13th),157(14th),158(15th),159(16th),160(17th). I fixed the program in ECC on 17th and further the requests from request number 160(17th) are fetching the correct number of data records. Now I need to delete the data in BI for request numbers 153 till 159 since they are not reconciling the data of ECC with BI. Now we reload the deltas for such requests from ECC to BI. So how do I reload the deltas now in this scenario since ECC system keeps track of the last delta ie.. on 17th august(Req no 160). But how do I Load the deltas from req number 153 to 159 from ECC to BI.
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Thanks in advance

As stated in a previous post...
How you choose to do this can be summed up by the question: Does the target for this data have cumulative or non-cumulative Key Figures?
If you are doing an overwrite to the Key Figures, you could just execute a Full Repair InfoPackage that extracts the data for the days that you found inconsistencies instead of attempting to change the timestamp in KEB5 on the source ECC environment.
However, if you're target has cumulative Key Figures you're left with very few options (a couple of them are time-consuming):
1) Changing the timestamp in KEB5, if your plug-in is PI 2003.1 or older. Newer versions of the plug-in do not allow the changing of the timestamp as was pointed out by Ferruccio earlier.
2) Deleting the keys in the target InfoProvider for those records that you extract in a Full Repair extract.
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Seeking Information on Company Code Currency in COPA

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I am working on a project to activate the company code currency flag in COPA (attributes under KEA0). I have activated the flag in a test system and as expected I now get two PA docs, a 10 and a B0. The oddity begins when I compare PA docs created from SD and FI. In my example I am creating documents in three different currencies; 1) transaction curr = SEK, 2) company curr = EUR, and 3) operating concern curr = USD. I am on ECC 6.0 EP 4.
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However, if I create a similar document with FB50 (record type B) the foreign currency key (FRWAE) is EUR instead of SEK and the exchange rate to USD is 1 (KURSF) instead of the actual exchange rate. I only get company currency and operating concern currency values. The values in the value fields are correct per currencies eventhough the fx rate is whacked. In FI the transaction currency is SEK but you would never know it in PA. The really bizarre thing is when I go to display the PA doc (I am branching from the FI doc) it behaves very odd. The default view is Op conc which is in USD. If I click the foreign curr button it displays USD. If I click the company code curr button it displays EUR. If I then go back to the foreign curr view it is now in EUR???
I am hoping someone can explain the difference between the two, or at least point me to a good resource. If there is a rational reason for this system behavior then I am hoping someone can suggest some way to manipulate the data.
Many thanks,
Chris

Hi,
CO-PA will only store values in either operating concern currency or company code currency(if active). For FI postings CO-PA fills the field foreign currency in the CO-PA line item with the currency with the currency of the company code. The reason for this is that the currency conversion for FI documents is that the currency conversion for FI documents is executed with the
company code currency and the field FRWAE is always filled with the currency that is used for conversion. This is designed in order to allow a reconciliation between FI and CO-PA. CO-PA uses company code currency as the base to convert to operating
concern currency for FI postings. The field FRWAE is not intended to reflect the transaction currency. It is just used to store the currency from which the conversion to the currency of the record is made.
In case of direct postings from FI/MM CO-PA takes over group currency directly if group and operating concern currency are identical. As group currency is translated in FI with exchange rate ( according the settings in transaction 'OB22' for company code) you'll find this exchange rate in CO-PA too. I have attached SAP Note 604936 to this ticket that describes the translation logic used in PA for postings from FI and MM.
The currency translation from SD however works differently as described in SAP Note 429517. In this case PA will not consider any values in group currency. Values in operating concern currency are either translated based on transaction or company code currency using exchange rate type 'M'.
Hope this will help.
Best regards, Takashi
Edited by: Takashi Kotani on Mar 6, 2010 2:24 AM

COPA Planning to Profit Center Accounting

Hi,
We are using ECC 6.0.
When we do COPA planning and transfer the values of COPA to Profit Center, no data has been transfered to profit center plan items.
We have not activated Planning version of Classic Profit Center Accounting. Is it required for ECC 6.0 also to activate Classic Profit Center Accoutning?
We have Mapped requisit Value fields of COPA to GL Accounts.
Can any one guide us in this regard.
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Hi,
In COPA the planning has been done to the value field of PRCTR which represents Profit center. Through report forms the actual and plan data for the value fields can be derived in COPA itself. I dont think that the planned values can be transferred to profit center accouting. On the other hand the actuals of profit center with the same value fields can be derived in COPA.
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