Copy cost centers & profit centers to a new Company
Hello,
What's the transactions or customizing path to copy cost and profit centers to a new company ?
Best reagards
Paul
Hi,
Good evening and greetings,
Try using KE56.
Please reward points if found useful.
Thanking you,
With kindest regards,
Ramesh Padmanabhan
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Usage of Cost Centers, Profit Centers and Internal Orders
Hello everyone,
i have perhaps for some of you a simple question but it bothers me alot.
Imagine we are using Cost centers and Internal Orders. For them we create statistical key figures using transaction KB31N.
Now we are installing SAP BI and want to create a report which would be generated acording to cost centers but with statistical key figures.
The question would be how to make a connection between cost centers orders and those stat.key.figs?
In our case the economists say that we are using this kind of scenario:
Dist.chanel ->
Sender: Cost center, Cost element
Receiver: Int.Order
and Stat key fig.
This is the only place where we have a connection between thos objects. Is there other way how to connect them. perhaps using profit centers?
If somebody didnt understand it, maybe ill try to explain it a bit better
Reagards
Laurynas PrikockisHi Laurynas,
Pls try to understand the concept as explained hereunder...
Cost Element:
Primary Cost Element : Replication of GL to bring costs into CO module when they are posted in FI
module
Secondary Cost Elements: Carriers of costs between two Cost Objects (when we want to transfer the
cost from Cost Centers to Internal Orders, vice versa and more, we create
Secondary Cost Elements to carry the costs and transfer them to the
reciever objects from sender objects)
Cost Center: It is a Cost Object, maintained on long-term basis, where we can capture the costs (Ex:
Marketing Cost Center)
Internal Order: It is also a Cost Object, maintained on shor-term basis, where we can capture the costs
(Ex: Internal Order for Special Marketing Campaign). Ultimately, whatever the costs
posted to this Internal Order, will get settled to Marketing Cost Center.
Staitistical Key Figure: It is used as a basis for allocation of certain expenses (Simple example would
be, Total rent paid for office is $100000 per month. This cost has to go to
different Cost Centers like Finance and Accounts, Marketing, Purchase Dept
etc on the basis of "Area Occupied". So, We will define "Area Occupied" as a
Statistical Key Figure in our system.
Now, when the Rent amount is posted in FI, it wil reach a Virtual Cost Center
(An "Allocation Cost Center" with name "Rent" to be created under your
Controlling Area) "Rent". From there, it has to reach the other Cost Centers (lie
F&A etc as explained above) on the basis of Area Occupied (SKF Created
for "area occupied")
For this, you need enter the Area Occupied values (Ex:Sq Ft) in KB31N and you need to create an Allocation Cycle (Distribution / Assessment) where in you will select "Area Occupied" (SKF) as your Receiver Tracing Factor.
I hope I am clear, don't hesitate to revert back for more explanation...
Srikanth Munnaluri
Edited by: Srikanth Munnaluri on Mar 3, 2009 7:26 PM -
To view the company code wise cost and profit centers
hi all,
how to know the company code wise cost centers and profit centers? and what is the transactin codes for this?
Regards,
SomaHi Soma,
Could you try Table-->CSKS. I believe it will give you the complete list of Cost Centers and the default Profit Centers along with Company Code info.
Regards
Srinivas -
WIP assets has wrong Cost Centers/Profit Centers
Hi Experts,
There are several WIP (AuC) assets created after releasing the WBS Elements.
Ideally the WIP assets should have the Cost Center/Profit Center similar to the ones in the WBS Elements.
However the assets have different CC/PC than the WBS Elements.
We cannot change the Cost centers in asset master manually as there are postings done and depreciation ran on these assets.
Please suggest if we need to change the Cost Centers in all the assets or is there any other solution to this issue??
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Cost Centers & Profit Centers in PM Order Settlements
Dear All,
Can anyone please explain me the exact use of following Fields in the PM Order?
Additional Data Tab - Responsible CCt , Profit Center , Object Class
Location Tab - Account Assignment u2013 Cost Center
Settlement Rule - Settlement Receiver (When category is CTR-Cost Center)
Also would appreciate if the explanation can be given on the impact on above in settling the Orders.
(CAPEX Orders as well as OPEX Orders)
Thanks & Regards,
ThushanthaHi,
Additional Data Tab
Responsible Cost Center: - The responsible cost center is the responsible area for authorization check on internal orders.
This does not have to be the cost center to which the order settles its costs.
(ex The cost center "site office" is the responsible cost center).
Profit Center:- Operating results for profit centers can be analyzed using either the
cost of sales approach or the period accounting approach.
By analyzing the fixed capital as well, you can expand your profit
centers for use as investment centers.
Location Tab
Cost Center:- which belongs to Equipment Master or Functional Location. This cost will be comes under Account Assignment Category
Settlement Reveiver:- Its the set of cost elements which receives the Actual cost from the work order & transfers to the cost center.
regards,
Venkatesan Anandan
Edited by: Venkatesan Anandan on Mar 11, 2009 3:03 PM -
Cost Centers and Profit centers default
Hi,
Apart from OKB9 settings where else we can design for default cost and profit centers.
thanks
RPHi,
For cost centres you can set the default directly in cost element master data (KA02). Regarding profit centre, you can use 3KEH transaction.
Regards,
Eli -
Cost centers and profit centers mapping
Hi Friends,
I'm through with defining cost and profit centers. How do I map the cost centers and profit centers. I've gone ahead and assigned the cost elements to cost centers in OKB9, giving 2-Business area mandatory.
I'm just done with defining the profit centers, but i dont have an idea how do I map the profit centers.
pls suggest.
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Pallavifound it
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Assignment of cost centers and profit centers
Hi Friends,
can anybody give me a series of steps of assignment of cost centers and profit centers, like I know there is a T.code 3KEH, but I really dont know the chronological (step by step) order of steps to be followed to assign the cost centers to profit centers, as profit centers cannot be directly posted to and as the postings.
And above all when I see the info about 3KEH, it says we need to assign only balance sheet items there and not cost items.
Basically I've not studied Profit center accounting Properly and so I'm facing this problme
If there is any documentation on this can anyone pass this on to: kiransandhyaATyahooDOTcom
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sandhyaHi Sridhar,
Thnx for replying. I've gone ahead and defined cost and profit centers and did what you have told me to. Now this is where I'm stranded. How do I map profit and cost centers so that the we get the right kind of reports.
Basically, my question would be: say for eg: if we are defining Company, Co.Code, before completing with Global paramters, there are a series of steps that we need to complete, right.
Like wise, I just wanted to have a series of mandatory steps that I need to follow where the cost centers and profit centers mapping is done, atleast if I have the steps with me then I can go ahead and check the logic as to why should I define a particular step.
Like I mentioned I happened to see some information about 3KEI, so before going to 3KEI or 3KEH, are there any other steps that I need to follow.
I need to get the cost center and profit center reports, so that is what I'm looking for, and what do i need to configure, before getting to that point?
I dont have a great insight into PCA, and I was not a part of the controlling configuration, but because a person has left in between the project, I'm supposed to do this and that is the reason why I dont have much time in doing R&D, and thats the whole reason why I'm seeking inputs which would actually minimise my time of R&D, once I'm able to convince my people, then again I can sit back and try to improvise my self.
regards
sandhya -
Hi All
Could you please tell at what level ( level 5 or level 9 ) are the profit centers
maintained in SAP. For example how to find the level of FRBs in the table
BSIS.
Also if anybody can explain me the concept of cost centers, profit centers
and cost center groups.
Regards
AnkitHi Ankit,
i am giving the defination of cost centre, profit centre
Cost centres are divisions that add to the cost of the organisation, but only indirectly add to the profit of the company. Examples include Research and Development, Marketing and Customer service. A cost centre is often identified with a speed type number.
Because the cost centre has a negative impact on profit (at least on the surface) it is a likely target for rollbacks and layoffs when budgets are cut. Operational decisions in a contact centre, for example, are typically driven by cost considerations. Financial investments in new equipment, technology and staff are often difficult to justify to management because indirect profitability is hard to translate to bottom-line figures.
Business metrics are sometimes employed to quantify the benefits of a cost centre and relate costs and benefits to those of the organisation as a whole. In a contact centre, for example, metrics such as average handle time, service level and cost per call are used in conjunction with other calculations to justify current or improved funding.
Profit Center Accounting provides visibility of an organizations profit and losses by profit center. The methods which can be utilized for EC-PCA (Profit Center Accounting) are period accounting or by the cost-of-sales approach. Profit Centers can be set-up to identify product lines, divisions, geographical regions, offices, production sites or by functions. Profit Centers are used for Internal Control purposes enabling management the ability to review areas of responsibility within their organization. The difference between a Cost Center and a Profit Center is that the Cost Center represents individual costs incurred during a given period and Profit Centers contain the balances of costs and revenues.
nagesh -
About profit centers assignment in Material Master
Hi Frnds,
Have a doubt to clarify. As far as assigning the (Cost centers and) Profit Centers in Material Master (MM01/MM02 ) is concerned, when we look at the costing views, there we have an option only to enter a Profit Center and not a Cost Center. Can anyone suggest to me in this regards.
My doubt is: When we purchase a Raw material/ Semi finished (in short any material), it is a cost incurred to produce a Finished product, which means this has to hit some cost center, first.
And above all when a PO etc from MM are made, there the purchasing clerk punches the RELEVANT COST CENTERS, then:
what is the use of defaulting Profit center in the material master,(without actually defaulting both cost and profit centers in costing views of MM).
(ii) when a cost object (profit center) is being defaulted, why not cost center?
Coz, primarily we need to know the cost in purchasing the material, then add up all costs and OH and then arrive at a selling price, thereby arriving at PROFIT which is where profit center is highly useful.
Plz suggest
regards
sandhyaHi,
To clarify your doubts see my response below:
1) Only Costs can be assigned to Cost Centres. i.e.Balance Sheet items cannot be assigned to Cost Centres.
2) On the other hand Balance Sheet items can be assigned to Profit Centres.
When you purchase a Raw material or Intermediate it is not a Cost at the point of Purchase but it is only a Cost at the time of Consumption, if the same is going to be inventorised. In this case it cannot be assigned to a Cost Centre as the Inventory Account which is a Balance Sheet Account is debited in FI.
Only when the Material is issued to the Production line for manufacture of a Finished product, the Cost centre will be manually assigned. Further, you cannot assign a default Cost Centre to a material , as the material can be issued & consumed by any Cost centre and thus the Cost centre will be assigned at the time of issue.
If you purchase a material and if the same is not going to be inventorised but it is a consumable material, it is assigned to a Cost Centre as the time of purchase and it will be debited to a P&L account in FI. The Cost Centre can be defaulted from the Purchase Requisition or the Purchase Order as the case maybe.
Profit centres are defaulted in the Material master, as we need to generate Profit Centre wise Financial statements and the Inventories need to be posted to Profit Centres to generate Financial statements.
Hope this clarifies your doubts.
Regards,
Assign points if useful. -
Hi,
I am trying to create an add-on that adds Profit Centers (Financials->Cost Accounting->Profit Centers). Is this supported by the DI API?
thanksHi Costas,
Currently there is no object that allows you to handle (create/delete) Profit Centers.
That is one object that I would very much appreciate.
Regards,
Vítor Vieira -
Cost center validity change and assign it to new company code
Hello
We are having 10 Cost centers in 1000 Company code, And validity of these cost centers is .01.01.2001 to 31.12.9999.
Now business want to create one more company code 2000. and wants to extend these same cost centers to 2000 company code also. But as per SAP std Cost center extention is not possible , bcz cost center can use by only one company code.
Now Company is saying that..they wants the same number for new company code from 23.09.2010 to 31.12.9999..
system is not allow me to change validity period of these cost centers, bcz these saying that the cost center is already defined for given period.
Beacuse new company code will start working from 24.09.2010. so i,e the reason , we want to make example "2561 cost center validity 01.01.2001 to 22.09.2010 for company code 1000. then after words 23.09.2010 to 31.12.9999 the same cost center 2561 will for 2000 company code.
but system is not allowing me to change the validity
Regards
MaheshHi Mangesh
What you wish is not possible.. You will have to create new cost center and assign to the new company code...
may be for simplicity sake, you can add a prefix or suffix to the existing cost center no i.e Cost Ctr 2356 can become N2356 in new comp code
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Ajay M -
New GL Profit Centers not updated with Reposting of costs in CO
Hi,
There is one concern, which I am not able to address.
In case one reposts primary costs to different cost centers which in turn has different profit centers, the PCA report gets updated since it is posted in CO.
However, in case of New GL Profit center reports the values are displayed in the original profit center posted and not in the reposted profit center. I understand that the reposting is done only in CO, but then there would be a mismatch in the PCA reports and the New GL profit center reports.
Please suggest any solution to this.Hi
check the path and see if Account Determination between CO & FI is active for the variant defined and assigned to your company code:
IMG>Financial Accounting>Financial Accounting Global Settings>Ledgers>Real time Integration between Controlling & FI>Define variants for Real Time Integration.
Regards
Sanil Bhandari -
SAP Security - Cost Centers and Profit Centers
Hi All,
We want to have the ability to restrict roles on cost center and profit center per the cost center/profit center owner. For example, we only want to allow users whom own cost centers to be able to see the cost centers they own. The problem that I am faced with is that I do not want to restrict via cost center authorization object because this would essentially lead to every user having their own individual role.
I did notice that each cost center has a user ID field that you can assign and maintain. I was thinking if it was possible to create some customization where this is checked against the uid logged onto the system but not sure if this could be done without modifying each program. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to restrict via cost center and profit center?
Thanks in adavnceHi,
did you check if a view could help in your context?
What I mean is this: create a view on top of your basetable where some predicates like
user = basetable.userid-column
is used.
This view has to be granted to all users and the basetable should NOT be granted at all.
If you do not want to change all applications, you could rename the basetable and create this new view with the old basetable-name to allow the unchanged applications to work.
Elke -
Profit center balances transfer from old profit centers to new profit cente
Dear All,
My client wants to deactivate all cost centers and profit centers and create new cost centers and new profit centers for new fiscal year 2009.
So here my queries are
1. Putting an end date to the existing cost center and creating the New cost center now itself in the system with effective date as 1st April 09?
I changed validity period in cost center but it does not accept.
2. How to restrict postings to profit center from April, 2009 ? even changed validity period and changed as inactive mode in profit center,
It is allowing postings to profit center.
3. How the balances need to be transferred to New profit centers? I tried in 9KE0 T.code but in this T.code we can transfer profit center and GL A/C wise
but here we have around 20 profit centers and 100 above Gls, so it will take so much of time, so kindly suggest me short way.
4. And When can we transfer balances to New profit centers i.e April 1st or after completions of Audit? because client wants to post pending transactions of 2008 FY
to old profit centers in April and May months. So in this situation how can i proceed?
5. For mapping the Assets & Liabilities balances as on 31st Mar 2009 to New profit center the following need to be provided
A. Profit center wise Trail balance
( For this i suggested S_PL0_86000030 t.code) is this correct?
B. Profit center wise Balances of Subsidiary Ledgers i.e Vendors, Customers & Assets
6. On which date I can close 2008 FY& open 2009 fiscal year for Assets?
Please guide and provide me solutions above my queries.
This would be great help for me, Thanks in advance.
Thanks & Regards,1. You can block cost centers and profit centers and create new or can use same by changing analysis period Eg: KS02 > Edit > Analysis period
2. Select lock indicator in profit center master record
3. Write LSMW to that
6. At the end of you fiscal year close the asset period and do all year end transactions and open new asset period
You can use S_PL0_86000030 check it
Kesh
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