Cost Value in COPA

Dear All,
In our organisation we have two units, whereas 1 units will be using the standard cost estimate and the other will not use the standard cost estimate. The standard price of the product will be updated in the material master manually for inventory valuation purpose. Will COPA pick the standard cost of the material even if the standard cost estimate run has not done.
As per my understanding it will. Since i calling the figure from the particular table of the material master whether i run the standard cost or not it will pick the value lying in that table. Need you kind advice in this regard.
Regards
Vasantha

Hi,
As long as you have a cost maintained in the Material Master for thr plant that you are delivering from the cost will be picked up.
In the sales order you can see for item conditions (If you are using condition type VPRS) the value being picked up for the plant where you do not use cost estimate to update the material master. This is the value(VPRS) that will pass to COPA (If you are using costing based COPA), provided you have assigned this condition to a value field in KE4I
Hope this helps
Siva

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