Costing a Phantom

We are implementing WIP and BOM with the use of phantoms.
At the moment can not configure the system to show the costs of
the phantoms at previous levels at the subassembly or finish
good, somebody handle phantoms in previous levels and how made
the configurarion to make the cost roll up at the last level.
Regards from Mexico.

Not sure if i understand the question, however if the question
is
"Can i roll up the costs of phantom items by rolling up the cost
of it's components and routing for phantom"
Yes you can do this in 11i, by setting up parameters in BOM.

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Costing of phantom in a BOM

Hi all
I'm trying to cost a material which has a phantom component in the BOM.
Can someone clarify if the phantom needs to be costed at all..? I mean, does "no costing" indicator need to be set in costing 1 tab of material master..?
Can someone explain this please?
Thanks very much

Hello -
A phantom material does not need to have a standard cost becuase the costing program will ignore that particular material when calculating for the upperl level item. Instead, the cost of the components that make up the phantom assembly are taken into consideration. Any labor that is stored in the routing for the phantom assembly is also ignored if one exists.
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Routings for phantom items are just for costing purposes, and not for production. A>B1>B2>C1>C2 --> D is the right structure for a production order for finished goods A, so components B1,B2,C1,C2 will be assigned to operation steps of material A. You will notice operations to build B and C do not appear in production order for A, so routing for material A should somehow include operations of B and C for actual costing.
Phantom items by definition are entities that cannot be placed on stock, so if you "un-phantomize" B and C, you will get planned orders for them and you will have to GR them into stock once done! If B and C are physical items that can be placed in stock, then you can un-phantomize them.
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BOM in SAP SRM?

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Which possibilities are there to use bills of material (BOMs) in SAP SRM 5.0 or beyond? We are using Material Master data replicated from MM in SRM Extended Classic Scenario?
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I am going through a scenario where there r 119 phantom assemlies at one bom level. Can this create problem in product costing? It has been told to me by somebody that there can not be more than 99 phantom asslys at one level of bom? Is that true? My problem is that when i am doing product costing it is showing error-" too many dummies at bom level". Is this related to no. of phantom asslys at one bom level?

HI bala,
all the materials are costing relevent. I thik this problem is releteted with no. of phantom assemlies allowed at one bom level.
I had 119 phantom assemlies at bom level 3 of a varient material. At that time it gives me abap runtime error during product costing.
Now I have removed special procurment key 50 from material master of 20 number of phantom asslys. so now there r now 99 phantom assemlies at bom level 3.
I have taken costing run and its not giving error.
so i reached to conclusion that statndard limit of no. of phantom assemlies at one bom level can not exeed 99.
Now customer requires 119 phantom assleys at this level 3 of bom.
So can u suggest me whether i should contact sap to increase this limit for this perticular case?
will they solve my problem or there is any other solution to this?
please reply.
nitin

Error in creation of Phantom item bill

Hi Gurus,
We have planned to use phantom item. for that wehave created an item of type: 'option class'. Then created its routing but facing below error when trying to cretae bill for phantom item.
Kindly help me out
Regards,
Ali Raza
APP-FND-01048: Use of this combination restricted by WHERE clause ' ( ((:parameter.query_mode = 2 AND bom_enabled_flag = 'Y') OR (:parameter.query_mode = 1 AND EXISTS (SELECT NULL FROM bom_bill_of_materials bom WHERE bom.organization_id = :parameter.org_id AND bom.assembly_item_id = inventory_item_id AND ((:parameter.bom_or_eng = 1 AND assembly_type = 1) OR :parameter.bom_or_eng = 2) ))) AND (bom_item_type in (:parameter.model_item_access, :parameter.planning_item_access, :parameter.std_item_access, :parameter.oc_item_access) ) AND ((:parameter.bom_or_eng = 1 AND eng_item_flag = 'N' AND NOT EXISTS (SELECT 'X' FROM bom_bill_of_materials bom WHERE bom.organization_id = :parameter.org_id AND bom.assembly_item_id = inventory_item_id AND bom.alternate_bom_designator IS NULL AND bom.assembly_type <> 1) AND (:parameter.eam_type is null OR (:parameter.eam_type in (1, 2, 3)
APP-FND-01388: Cannot read value for profile option FND_INDICATOR_COLORS in routine &ROUTINE.

Hi Sandeep,
Thanks for your reply.
I have checked all three possibilities. Item is not Engineering item and already assigned to Org. Also the BOM doesnot exist. Kindly note that I donot have any issue in creating bill of a standard item. We are using phantom item for the first time so tell me if phantom item need some special setup or some profile option to be active etc? I am using below attributes in inventory. Kindly go through it and suggest.
Deviation Factor +     0
Deviation Factor -     0
Shelf Life Days     0
Price Tolerance %     0
Acceptable Rate -     0
Acceptable Rate +     0
Postprocessing Lead Time     0
Planning Time Fence Days     1
Lead Time Lot Size     1
Descriptive Flexfield     ---------
Item Status     Active
Conversions     Both standard and item specific
Forecast Control     Consume Forecast
Effectivity Control     Date
Service Request     Enabled
RMA Inspection Required     Inspection not required
Default SO Source Type     Internal
Restrict Locators     Locators restricted to pre-defined list
Make or Buy     Make
Billing Type     Material
Cycle Count Enabled     No
Check Material Shortage     No
Lot Split Enabled     No
Lot Merge Enabled     No
Lot Translate Enabled     No
Lot Substitution Enabled     No
Bulk Picked     No
Engineering Item     No
EAM Notification Required     No
Use Approved Supplier     No
Taxable     No
Allow Description Update     No
RFQ Required     No
Outside Processing Item     No
Equipment     No
Planned Inventory Point     No
Repetitive Planning     No
Build in WIP     No
Customer Ordered     No
Customer Orders Enabled     No
Internal Ordered     No
Internal Orders Enabled     No
OE Transactable     No
Assemble to Order     No
Ship Model Complete     No
Financing Allowed     No
Invoiceable Item     No
Invoice Enabled     No
Enable Contract Coverage     No
Enable Defect Tracking     No
Lot Control     No lot control
Serial Number Generation     No serial number control
Lot Expiration     No shelf life control
End Assembly Pegging     None
Check ATP     None
ATP Components     None
Safety Stock     Non-MRP planned
Inventory Planning Method     Not planned
MRP Planning Method     Not planned
Primary Unit of Measure     NUMBER
BOM Item Type     Option class
WIP Supply Type     Phantom
User Item Type     Phantom item
Locator Control     Prespecified locator control
Tracking UOM Indicator     Primary
Pricing UOM Indicator     Primary
Reservable     Reservable
Restrict Subinventories     Subinventories restricted to pre-defined list
Description     TEST FG
Revision Control     Under revision quantity control
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Stockable     Yes
Transactable     Yes
BOM Allowed     Yes
Costing Enabled     Yes
Inventory Asset Value     Yes
Include in Rollup     Yes
Purchased     Yes
Purchasable     Yes
Receipt Required     Yes
Create Supply     Yes
Shippable     Yes
Pick Components     Yes
Returnable     Yes
Enable Service Billing     Yes
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While creating the PCE for one of the finished materials, in the PCE, the phantom material is not getting selected.
There is no issue with the production version or BOM or Master recipe since in the process order after the BOM explosion the phantom material is being picked up.
The costing date of the PCE is also as per the production version validity date. In the BOM & master the phantom item is maintained for costing.
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Finished Goods BOM Semi finished goods costs

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We have Product Costing by order where we have multi level BOM with Phantom Assembly. When we run the costing CK11N we unable to see the cost break at semi finished goods level rather we can only see the cost details by raw material level. We think something wrong with the BOM but unable to find out the reason. Can some one help us in this regard
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Costs of components and activities not incorporated in costs of FG

Dear experts,
I am setting up discrete manufacturing in a warehouse with Handling units. The process I follow:
1. Crate handling unit with COWBPACK
2. Do goods receipt with COWBHUWE
3. Consume components with COWBHUWA
When looking at the financial documents behind the goods receipt of the finished product, I notice that the only costs that are booked are the costs of the actual finished product to inventory, but not the activities or the costs of the components...
What am I doing wrong or what configuration is missing?
Thanks. M

Hi Pankaj,
When generating PPM/
PDS, the system checks whether the components of the bill of material exist in an active integration model. If not, the corresponding components are not transferred to the PPM.
Compenet will not transfer if :
-Components that have the phantom item indicator are not transferred.
-Components that have the bulk issue indicator are not transferred.
-If the leading material already exists in APO but this leading material is no longer in an active integration model, no data is sent to APO.
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Phantom with Outside processing

Hi all,
pls help me.
I have an assy with a routing with outside processing but I often need to change to phantom this assy. So this assy result phanto for a BOM and non Phantom for another BOM.
I need also to count the time of resources used for phantom items so I enable the flag in BOM parameter "Use Phantom Routings".
The problem is that: for Jobs in whitch the subassy is phantom I need all its resources that go up to the parent but NOT the Outside processing.
for jobs in whitch the subassy is NOT phantom the outside processing is correct.
Is there any way to solve this request? I try to use alternates bills and routing but WIP consider only the alternative BOM and/or routing of the parent and not even of the phantom subassy.
is there someone who can help me?
really really thanks
Alex

Hello Rafik ,
Hope this will give you an idea about Subcontracting Operation :
Subcontracting Steps:
1. Define all the materials in your plant (subcontracting and packaging etc).
2. In the material master MRP 4 view there is one field in which you can mention that this material is not relevant to MRP planning, use this field for subcontracting material so that it will not be planned in MRP runs ( generally use this field for re-order point planning).
3. In the BOM for the subcontracting material put the special procurement key as Subcontracting and do not keep relevance for costing.
4. If you're using packaging material of your company and want to capture the cost of these materials in the subcontracting production order then put relevance for cost.
5. Define alternate BOMs for each customer.
6. Generally the routing will be the same but materials will change, define different prodcution versions for each alternate BOM and assign to the routing.
7. Define the activite types for packing and mixing in the work center and assign them to the cost center, use these for your routing.
8. Whenever you recive a sub-contracting order, use the relevant production version depending on the customer.
9.Please use control key PP02 (customizing in OP00)in routing and maintain
info record for subcontracting vendor
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Regards
Jia

Repeated entry of same material during costing of header

Hi ,
during costing run of a header material, a component assigned only once in BOM is comming in multiple line items with different qty.
what may be the reason?
Regards

Hi vivek/ jiaul,
Thanks for reply,
BOM component is not recursive.
component is assgined only once in BOM . I checked CS12 also and its assigned only once in header.
Let me tell the structure of assignment of this raw material which is coming multiple times.
This Raw material is assigned to Phantom material and the phantom is assigned to header material and we are running the costing run of the header material.
In costing run This raw material is coming multiple times with diffrent qtd. out of which only one lineitem is correct and other lineitems are coming of same material with diffrent qtd.(nowhere in BOM this diffrent qtd which is coming is maintained)
what else to be checked, please advice.
Regards,
Edited by: pp savvy on Jul 3, 2010 3:18 PM

Phantom assembly confirmation

if I have an Product, and in its BOM there is a phantom assembly item which has its own routing. Question is, can i confirm also the operations for that phantom assembly? How is confirmation done, when there is only one production order (which is for the Product itself)

Hello,
Yes it's same, you have to move all the operations of the phantom material routing to the header material, then only those operations are used for scheduling, costing puposes.
Even in costing system will not consider the phantom routing for the cost calculation when co is doing with qty. struc.
They will encounter problem.
so make sure that there is no routing for the phaantom materials and all the operations are moved to the header material.
Regards,
Manick.

BAPI_ROUTING_CREATE problems with component allocation of phantom BOMs

I try to create a routing via the BAPI_ROUTING_CREATE and all works fine until I try to do component allocations for phantom BOM lines in the next level.
In my simple BOM I have the following structure:
00004465 (ROOT BOM)
+
+---Phantom_BOM_B (BOM 00004466)
    +
    +---Material_X
+---Material_Y
I only can allocation Material Y and BOM_B but I am not able to allocate the material X instead of the BOM_B, in that case I always get the message "The component to be assigned has not been completely specified".
My COMPONENTALLOCATION Table Code:
T_COM-SEQUENCE_NO = '000000'.
T_COM-OPERATION_ID = '0010'.
T_COM-BOM_TYPE = 'M'.
T_COM-BOM_NO = '00004466'.
T_COM-ALTERNATIVE_BOM = '01'.
T_COM-ITEM_ID = '00000001'.
T_COM-ITEM_NO = '0010'.
T_COM-BACKFLUSH = 'X'.
T_COM-PLANT = '1000'.
T_COM-MATERIAL = ''.
T_COM-BOM_TYPE_ROOT = 'M'.
T_COM-BOM_NO_ROOT = '00004465'.
T_COM-ALTERNATIVE_BOM_ROOT = '01'.
*T_COM-PATH = '000001'.
I hope some can help me to find me, a solution to solve my problem.
Thanks
Jörg

Dear ,
Phantom BOM means which you want to plan interm of Operation Hrs and Issue Componenets but not intereted to Physically Store rather re-ssiue it to Main FG .
Now ,from your requirement it s clear that BOM : 00004465(ROOT BOM) is for your FG (Let Say A) BOM : 00004466 is a SFG (Let say B) as Root BOM component , which is In House produced .
Bascically , If you do not want to *Store B( Phantom BOM) * but want plan the depedent of B ( X, Y , Z etc ) along with A's dependent and also cost of B ( Phantom BOM )   , then the routing hrs /component along will be issued directly to A( Root BOM) ,
So you do not need to create Routing for Phatom BOM and also no componenet alocation required . Better , you can add that routing operation hrs to main routing of the FG .
Hope this is clear
regards
JH

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