Create a roaming Guest Network

I'm planning to expand my network with a second Time Capsule to increase network coverage. The TCs would both be of a version with simultaneous dual band and guest network. The TCs would be connected with wired ethernet and one of the TCs would serve as DHCP server.
My plan is to create a roaming network, but according to the manual the second TC would be configured as a bridge. Doesn't that disable the Guest Network feature? Is there any way to have both a main roaming network and a guest roaming network?
Reference:
page 42
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/Apple_AirPort_NetworksEarly2009.pdf

Welcome to the discussions!
+Is there any way to have both a main roaming network and a guest roaming network?+
Unfortunately, no. As you point out, when the second Time Capsule is in bridge mode, the availability of a Guest option is not present.

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I have found a few similar posts but they are pretty old and not exactly what i want. In the Time Capsule there is an option for a Guest network. Would it be possible to create a second guest network with the same time capsule? So that it would have internet but would be isolated from the other components on the system?

Not exactly.....as things get tricky. You could add another Apple router...but it would need to be configured in Bridge Mode to work correctly with the "main" router.
A separate Guest Network feature cannot be enabled when the Apple router is set up to operate in Bridge Mode.
This would apply to the "main" Time Capsule as well. So, you would need to insure that the Time Capsule was connected to a simple modem......not a modem/router combination device that is commonly offered by most Internet Service Providers.
Check with your ISP to make sure that they provide you with a simple modem if you want to be able to use the Guest Network feature on any of the Apple routers.

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Good afternoon,
I'm trying to set up a guest network for my lad to use with his Xbox 360, laptop, iphone, etc.
At present I have my iMac, Airport Extreme Base Station, Airport Express all connected to my Sky broadband router. I also watch films on my 360 and AppleTV2 via iTunes.
Is there a way to create a network (to access the internet only) so my lad can't watch the films I have on iTunes? He'll also feel good as he'll have his own network (not realising I'm limiting his access;))
Thanks very much for any help in advance,
McFly.

Unfortunately, the Guest Network option is generally not available when the AirPort Extreme is used with another modem/router....in this case the Sky product.
You can check to see if your setup will allow this as follows:
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on the AirPort Extreme icon, then click Edit
Click on the Wireless tab at the top of the window
Check to see if there is an option to Enable the Guest Network
If yes, assign a name to the network, security and and a password and click Update to save the new settings.
However......If the option to Enable the Guest Network does not appear (see example below), unfortunately you will not be able to setup another wireless network.

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Since the airport utility and base stations have been updated to allow airports in bridge mode to do guest networking, I have set up a guest network on my base stations that are extending my main base station via ethernet that is doing the routing connected to my modem. However, the guest network is not a roaming network. I see multiple guest network SSID's, instead of one roaming SSID like my main network. Guest networks are all the same, so instead of seeing "Network" & "Network_Guest" only, I see multiple "Network_Guest" SSIDs. Is this normal or and I doing something wrong?

If you are using a common utility like iStumber, Air Radar, WiFi Explorer, etc. you will see mulitple SSIDs.
For example, if you have assigned a single network name for both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands on your "main" router, you will see both of these SSIDs. Look a bit more carefully and you will see that one is 2.4 GHz and other 5 GHz.
In addition, the Guest Network will display 2 SSIDs with the same name, one for 2.4 GHz and another for 5 GHz.
So, you will see a total of 4 SSIDs for the "main" AirPort.
Any other AirPorts that you have set up will display a total of 4 SSIDs as well.
So, if you have a "main" AirPort and "remote" AirPort setup in a roaming network to extend both the main and guest networks, you will see 8 SSIDs on a wireless utility. This is normal.
Things get a bit more complicated if you have enabled the option to assign a different name to the 5 GHz network....because you will see different SSIDs for the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands. The Guest network does not have an option to assign a different name to the 5 GHz band.

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How to I create / establish a Guest Network on my Time Capsule for guests to get internet access only? (I.e., I want guests to be able to log on wirelessly, but I don't want them to be able to access files on my Time Capsule hard drive.)
I have read some forums and the manual, and I do not see the Guest tab in the AirPort Utilities set-up menu. There was one post about no Guest Network being possible in Bridge Mode, but I don't know what this means or how to change it if I do happen to be in Bridge Mode.
Basically, I would like to start from scratch and establish a new Guest Network ... Any help?

This information indicates that your Time Capsule is in Bridge Mode because AirPort Utility detected that you may have another router or gateway ahead of the Time Capsule on your network.
This would be a device that is a combination modem and router, usually with 3-4 ethernet ports on the back although some devices have only one port.
I would recommend that you leave the Time Capsule set where it is if everything else seems to be working correctly on your network. Unfortunately, the Guest Network is not available when the Time Capsule is configured in Bridge Mode.
If you want to try another setting *+that may or may not work.+*..
Open AirPort Utility and click Manual Setup
Click the Internet icon
Change the setting for Connection Sharing to "Share a public IP address"
Update to save changes. AirPort Utility may or may not let you do this. If it does, you'll need to click "ignore" when you see the error messages about a Double NAT on your network.
Double NAT means that you will have two devices both trying to act as routers on your network, which can cause conflicts and improper network operation. I'm not recommending that you do this, but some users can get away with it.
No guarantees here. Up to you.

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Hi. I've done a search here, I've tried setting this up at my house but haven't figured it out yet.
Friends have Verizon FiOS service. They're using the provided modem as the ethernet router and it is handing out DHCP addresses, and for a number of reasons including their home theater, on demand use, etc., they want to keep the FiOS modem as the router, not an Apple product.
We're using an Airport Extreme and a Time Capsule both in bridge mode to distribute the wireless network and everything works fine. They'd like to add an isolated, unencrypted Guest Network. I know we can't use the Extreme's Guest tab because we're in bridge mode.
But we do have a new Airport Express. It seems like there would be a way to set up a Double NAT on a different subnet and give guest users access to the internet but not to computers, shared volumes, printers, and everything else on the primary, encrypted network.
Is there a way to do this or will every address coming from the FiOS router be on the same subnet? Are there any other horrible consequences from doing this, i.e., the primary network will still operate fine?
If the DHCP range coming from the FiOS router is 192.168.15.001 to 192.168.15.199, do I set the Airport Express IP address manually? To what?
To eliminate the possibility of duplicate IP addresses would you have the Airport Express hand out a small range of IPs on a completely different network area, like 10.0.1.1?
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I was trying to create a primary and guest network division after the router... such as an unusual configuration in the AEBSn after the FiOS router.
At my home I have my cable modem connected to an AEBSn, which is doing my network's routing. But I didn't set a Guest Network on this AEBSn. I am trying to set up a discrete Guest Network downline from this router. (Which would simulate my friend's installation where they're using a FiOS modem/router all in one and we want to create a discrete Guest Network after that.)
But as I guess you've been patiently trying to get through to me, Bob, whatever outlying separation you may be able to create seems to get put back together at the main router.
For example, today I connected a second AEBSn ("AEBSn Guest") to the LAN port of my primary AEBSn router. I set the AEBSn Guest to create a wireless network, and I set that to be a closed encrypted network called "Test," and I enabled unencrypted Guest Networking as usual and told the AEBSn to ignore the Double NAT error.
With this configuration I am able to get on the open Guest SSID, and internet connection is normal. Between the Guest and the primary encrypted network, printing is broken, iPhoto sharing is broken, and so on, but I still see shared volumes and can log in with authentication.
So I can see why a solution to this may have been elusive.
I don't know much about cable TV's subscription services but I took a peek at the set up pages of the Verizon FiOS router and noted there was a lot going on there. Lots of ethernet and cable IP addresses to Set Top Boxes, etc. Not sure if all this could be recreated within the administration of the Airport Extreme, but I am hesitant to risk messing up the Comcast services which are presently working well.
In terms of zooming out to the big picture... when I invite guests to share my internet service, they're usually doing email and web browsing for the weekend but at the end of their stay they want to print their boarding passes... so despite setting up a guest network I might end up giving them access to the main network anyway.
Thanks for the help, Bob.

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I would now like to create a guest network on the Airport Extreme, while this Extreme keeps on connecting to the private network of the TC and keeps on broadcasting it to the Express. Is this possible?
Unfortunately, the "main" router...your TC in this case....is the only device that can create a Guest Network, assuming that the TC is connected to a simple modem.
Unfortunately again, the Guest Network cannot be extended. Your only real option here is to create a Guest Network on the TC and hope that it will have sufficient coverage for your needs.

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If I click on that, it leads me to create a substitute for my primary network, leaving me with no second option that I can designate for users. In other words, my "Guest Network" replaces my primary network. Something in both the Airport Express manual, and in Apple's online Support comments does not jibe with what the Utility is asking me to do.

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The D-Router has abundant Ethernet sockets to serve the computers and drives connected to one another in close proximity in the office. The Express has one open Ethernet socket. Therefore, I don't see how I can use the Express in lieu of the D-Router. Do you disagree?
How would the Ethernet switch that you mentioned work with the Comcast modem and the Express? What would I need to know about connecting them, defining them to the computer, to each other, etc.?
Connectivity is largely a foreign language to me, so it would help to have information about guides, manuals, etc., that could walk a relative ignoramus through the process of getting them to work well together. Can you suggest any such sources?
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I created a "guest" network on my Time Machine router, but now i can't remember the password. How can I reset the password on that guest network?

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On your Mac.....
Open Finder > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on the Time Capsule icon, then click Edit in the smaller window that appears
Click the Wireless tab at the top of the next window
The settings for the Guest Network are located in the center of the window, below the settings for the "Main" network.
Edit/backspace out the password for the Guest Network and and then Verify the password again
Click Update at the lower right of the window and give the Time Capsule a full minute to restart
It might be a good idea to write down the new password that you created and keep it in a safe place.

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The Guest Network feature will not function correctly if the AirPort Exteme is configured in Bridge Mode.
But unfortunately, Bridge Mode is the correct setting if you have the AirPort Extreme connected to a modem/router or gateway type of device.
So, is the AirPort Extreme configured in Bridge Mode as illustrated above?
Can you provide the make and model number of the device that you might call your "modem"?

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I have a new Airport Extreme 802.11n running firmware version 7.4.1 and Airport Utility 5.4.1. I bought this from the Apple store at apple.com in mid-March 2009.
I would like to set up a guest network but can not find where to do it... I have reset the unit to factory and reconfigured, but I never see an option to create a guest network. Anyone have any thoughts on what I am doing wrong?
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Hi Art,
I ran into the same problem awhile ago. It's really confusing when there are no clues whatsoever as to what the problem is. Well, here's what I have discovered:
For the AEBS (dual band) to be able to set up a guest network, it needs to be the DHCP server for the network. (It needs to be in control of creating IP ranges, subnets and the assigning of IP numbers for the other nodes on the network.)
In other words: If you have your network set up in such a way that the AEBS is connected to the Internet through a modem/router that happens to dish out the DHCP addresses for your LAN, you are in effect using the AEBS in bridge mode. As the AEBS cannot create a guest network when in bridge mode, the options to do so remain hidden in the Airport Utility.
The solution is to put your modem/router in bridge mode and make the AEBS the DHCP/NAT server for your network instead. How to do that is completely different story, though.
Hope this clarified things!
Cheers.

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* The AirPort Express will need to connect to a simple modem.....not a modem/router or gateway type of device.....for the guest network feature to work correctly.

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Unfortunately, Apple assumes that you will be using a simple modem with their routers. Something like this, for example, which will allow the Guest Network feature to work correctly, since the AirPort will be the main router on the network.
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