Cross-dissolve audio levels

As video images dissolve gently into each other, shouldn't the audio level of the first clip drop as that of the second clip increases? I am finding that they simply add together so that they start and end abruptly; this is most noticeable if one is a lot more loud than the other. I can change them manually but this does seem to be a messy way of doing things.

Peter,
"A case of mis-representation?"
Perhaps, but I really think the name of a particular transition refers to what it does to the picture, not the sound.
It just so happens that one can cross fade audio too. But what would one expect the audio to do in a Ripple or Disintegrate transition?
Matt

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Well it's done automatically in the case of two video clips with attached audio that have a Cross Dissolve transition between them.
When you have detached or independent audio clips just overlap them and use the fade handles to fade one out and the next in. See below:
See: http://help.apple.com/imovie/mac/10.0/#mov3b5ded23e for more details
Geoff.

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Just got a new Intel Mac Pro with heaps of RAM & HDD's to use for my part time wedding video production business.
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I am using FCPX v10.8 to edit 1hour long lectures. When I edit out a short mis-speak, for example, the audio will overlap too, along with the video. Not good.
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Since I have been using I MOVIE HD, I try to do a transition joining two clips (cross dissolve) and reguardless of the lengh of the transition, it pulls in a piece of audio from some other part of my project.
I only get this audio problem when I use cross-dissolve, overlap or fade out. The other transitions are normal. My project is due late this week and hope I can find a FIX in time.
I can silence the transition but it gives me a gap with NO audio.
Any advice will be appreciated. Peace, Joe Ray from the Kenai River in Alaska.

Hi Sue,
Many thanks... It worked. You saved my project timelime and completion day. Peace, Joe Ray

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Greetings:
This is a no brainer in 'legacy' Final Cut, but I am completely stumped in FCP-X. Situation is thus:
Main story line consists of a speaker. I would like to drop stills onto/into the storyline while the speaker continues uninterrupted. I've tried connecting to the storyline, overwriting to the storyline, creating a secondary storyline, creating transitions with available media, with full overlap -- all for naught. The outgoing bits of the cross dissolve have a weird audio hiccup that I cannot get rid of. I simply want to fade a still in and fade it out (I appreciate I could keyframe opacity with a still connected to the main storyline, but that seems slightly nuts -- this should be a keystroke). I am assuming I'm missing something -- possibly something really simple, so, apologies for being a dolt, but I could really use a hand here.
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You might find these threads helpful:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16913806#16913806
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15484986#15484986
This is one of those basic things that hopefully will get added back in one of the next few builds
(Along with things like better marker implementation.)
G

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Thank you everyone for responding to my post so quickly. I couldn't keep an eye on it last night but checked this morning and read your answers.
I see the point, and will research the "handles" situation. The reason I posted is I think how I'm editing in FCP is the wrong way (though it seems to work) and the reason I think this is when I see screen captures of other peoples' timelines, they have one track of video in their timeline and I use two, or more. I came from Premiere, and since buying FCP to replace Premiere I guessed FCP worked in the same way I was taught to use Premiere.
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Well, okay....but I guess my thoughts with this whole situation is if I'm doing this wrong, I'd tell the world and see if I can learn to do it right. I have a stack of FCP books and some DVD training stuff, but just don't have the time to read/watch everything there is to read/watch while still running a business. I've been a commercial photog for 30+ years, and like most commercial photogs I've had to expand into other digital realms besides stills to keep making a living. Video is relatively new to me, and though it appears as a giant rat's nest of terminology and gear I'm getting more attuned to it all the time, and have a load of fun doing it. Shooting video is a nice break from my still-camera work, and offers many parallels to it.
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Tom, I figured it out. The audio for the video clip was overlapping the edit (i.e. it extended to the left, so that the video clip's audio ran under the still pic). When I got rid of the (easily replaced) audio, the regular cross-dissolve worked.
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Based on my limited experience, the most useful transition is the cross dissolve. It is pretty much the only one I use since it is doesn't draw attention to itself and bears repeated deployment for smooth scene changes. But it has a problem: If you simply make a clip split and put the transition in, it won't work. And it appears even high level people at Apple technical support don't understand what is going on. Based on the apparently incorrect background information they gave me, I have always been extremely careful about making the split precisely where the scene changes and then chopping off a small number of frames in order to make the transition work. But recently I discovered that cross dissolve transitions will always work (regardless of whether the frames on both sides of the cut are similar or even identical) if you delete precisely one frame, and it can be from either side of the split. When you do that the edges of the clip go from squared (right angles) to rounded. The cross dissolve transitions will never work between two clips that have squared edges. They will always work when the edges are rounded. And all it takes to get the edges to be rounded is the deletion one frame. The edges get rounded and cross dissolve transitions work and if you remove more than one frame, and/or do if from both sides of the split. The point is that it will work with as little as one frame. But if you don't sacrifice at least one frame, cross dissolve transitions will never work.
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When one splits clips, don't split close to what will be the beginning or the end of a shot.That's why you should always start the camera BEFORE the action begins and run AFTER the action ends. It only needs to be a 1/2 second to 1 second. Now before you add a cut or a transition you will automatically trim the end and the beginning of the two clips.
I start with a two-hour clip that includes hundreds of scenes, some ending abruptly, some not. If scene one suddenly ends and scene two begins, the natural place to make the cut is where the scene changes. If it happens that there is stuff immediately on each side of the cut that is of value, you would might prefer not to lose even one frame. Usually on one of the two sides the loss of one frame is not so bad. And if you sacrifice that frame you have almost everything you want. But it turns out that the situation is better than that. Since you can also add frames (I now realize), you can end without losing any frames at all. Of course, if you happen to be in a situation where there is plenty of useless stuff on both sides of a cut, the problem the solution is trying to solve does not come up. But I wouldn't change my filming habits just to avoid this problem of adding cross dissolves, since once you know what to handle it, it's not much of a problem. As to whether it is good practice to aim to have extra footage on both sides of a shot, sure. That seems like a good rule of thumb to me. But there are many situations where you don't have that opportunity. Say you were filming John Kennedy in Dallas or life among the Taliban or your kid falling off a horse. Life may not give you the chance to put useless footage at the end or beginning of your shot. In my case, I have hours of amateur home movies that stop at all sorts of odd places. I can't go back and reshoot it.
I suspect Apple simply expected you to do this. This will inherently eliminate what may be a tiny bug that you overcome by trimming 1 frame.
Most transition types don't require the removal or addition of a frame. When I called Apple technical support about this, the person I talked to was surprised by this feature too. And he found it happening with at least one other transition, I think. He handed me over to a specialist. That specialist gave me a complicated theory for why this was happening. He said that the frames on both sides of the cut had to look fairly different for the transition to work. And sometimes when we think we have made the cut exactly where the scene changes, we haven't in fact. So we need to cut away until both sides are definitely different. And you will notice that often the thumbnail for one side will be an image from the other side. This lead me to think that I was required to make sure that on either side of the cut there was definitely a significant change of image. But all you have to do is get the edges of the clip to become rounded. And you can do this by adding or subtracting a frame at any location. Of course, if you are going to be chopping off multiple frames for any reason, you will also solve or avoid this problem. So, if Apple was thinking what you suggest, they haven't given any guidance about it in print. And the tech support people don't seem to know it.
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I'm working on a project in FCP X and for some reason, it won't let me apply cross-dissolves to certain clips. There is no warning when I try to add a cross-dissolve, it just doesn't appear. I'm having no trouble with the earlier parts of my project and some later bits as well.
The timeline is very simple and the clips are long enough to allow cross-dissolves.
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Hi,
What are the correct settings for a fluent cross-dissolve from one clip to another?
I am using version 12 of Premiere Elements and the standard length of my is 1 second (50 frames). However the result is that I still can see the faded out video 'stop' (instead of fading completely) and the new video seems to pause before it's fading in.
Obviously I want it just going smoothly from one clip to another.
Seems to me like a basic setting to any video editing software, but I cannot seem to fix this.
Thanx for your responses.
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Using some freeware, I have also some info about my original video file format. Maybe that helps to determine what settings I should put in Premiere. And looking back now at my video, I guess I described my problem wrongly. Looking closer at the transition, it's not really like previous clip has not fully disappeared, it does fully disappear, but ends with a few frames of still image, like the next clip starts with a few frames of still image....
Algemeen
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Video
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Audio
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Frame Size: 409h x 2048
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Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square pixels (1.0)
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Format: MPEG2-DVD
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Codec: MainConcept MPEG Video
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M Frames: 3
N Frames: 12
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