Cross service transactions

Hi,
I'm just trying to understand the concepts of SOA.
Coming from database development I'm maybe thinking to strong
in transactions, but exactly at this point I missed some answers
in the SOA world.
I already tried to find out some things by browsing the internet,
but that didn't really satisfy me. 2PC doesn't seem to be the
preferred method to handle transactions in a SOA environment and I
didn't fully understand how compensation services can fill the gap.
Maybe somebody from this group can clarify those points to me:
- Does every service by definition includes a "commit" at the end?
Of course only talking about services which do some
insert/update/delete operations on a database.
- Or is the "calling" system (frontend, BPEL Engine ...) responsible
to commit changes to the database - or close the transaction?
- How can a rollback be performed ( across multiple services )
e.g. the well know example of those 3 services:
1. book hotel
2. book flight
3. book car
assume that those service calls are done in parallel and 1. and 2.
were working and left a committed status in different databases (or
even tables).
service 3 gave an error and 1. and 2. needed to be undone.
Without any restrictions this can of course be done with
compensation services, but what happens if anybody else in the
meantime changes the database entry which was created in 1. -
maybe, an hotel manager assigns this record to a work plan for the
cleaning team or anything else ....
If nobody didn't update anything on those new records than it won't
be a problem, but otherwise ... ????
How should one handle such situations in a SOA or at least service oriented environment?
Thanks for a short answer
Chris

Hi Chris,
The short answer is that the cancelBooking operations call in the compensation flows of the hotelBooking and flightBooking services will have to handle how a cancellation is done. If you just provide getter and setter operations on tables and leave it to the orchestration layer to add the business logic, I would say that your web services are too fine gained.
Best,
Mathias

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