CS5 and 64 bits support: what implications?

Hi folks,
I would like to ask the question like this: does the 64 bits support mean i will have to purchase 64 bits machines for my CS5 copy?
Thank you for your helps.

Yes, you will need to have a 64-bit operating system and a 64-bit processor.
For Mac OS, Leopard (10.5) and Snow Leopard (10.6) are already capable of running 64-bit applications, and any Macintosh sold in the last few years can run 64-bit software.
For Windows, you need 64-bit Windows 7 or 64-bit Windows Vista.
For system requirements, see this page:
http://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/systemreqs/

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I'm constantly confused about which color space and bit depth to choose for various things.
Examples:
- Does it make any sense to choose sRGB and 16-bits? (I thought sRGB was 8-bit by nature, no?)
- Likewise for AdobeRGB - are the upper 8-bits empty if you use 16-bits?
- What is the relationship between Nikon AdobeWide RGB, and AdobeRGB? - if a software supports one, will it support the other?
- ProPhoto/8-bits - is there ever a reason?...
I could go on, but I think you get the idea...
Any help?
Rob

So, it does not really make sense to use ProPhoto/8 for output (or for anything else I guess(?)), even if its supported, since it is optimized for an extended gamut, and if your output device does not encompass the gamut, then you've lost something since your bits will be spread thinner in the "most important" colors.
Correct, you do not want to do prophotoRGB 8bit anything. It is very easy to get posterization with it. Coincidentally, if you print from Lightroom and let the driver manage and do not check 16-bit output, Lightroom outputs prophotoRGB 8bits to the driver. This is rather annoying as it is very easy to get posterizaed prints this way.
It seems that AdobeRGB has been optimized more for "important" colors and so if you have to scrunch down into an 8-bit jpeg, then its the best choice if supported - same would hold true for an 8-bit tif I would think (?)
Correct on both counts. If there is color management and you go 8 bits adobeRGB is a good choice. This is only really true for print targets though as adobeRGB encompasses more of a typical CMYK gamut than sRGB. For display targets such as the web you will be better off always using sRGB as 99% of displays are closer to that and so you don't gain anything. Also, 80% of web browsers is still not color managed.
On a theoretical note: I still don't understand why if image data is 12 or 14 bits and the image format uses 16 bits, why there has to be a boundary drawn around the gamut representation. But for practical purposes, maybe it doesn't really matter.
Do realitze hat the original image in 12 to 14 bits is in linear gamma as that is how the sensor reacts to light. However formats for display are always gamma corrected for efficiency, because the human eye reacts non-linearly to light and because typical displays have a gamma powerlaw response of brightness/darkness. Lightroom internally uses a 16-bit linear space. This is more bits than the 12 or 14 bits simply to avoid aliasing errors and other numeric errors. Similarly the working space is chosen larger than the gamut cameras can capture in order to have some overhead that allows for flexibility and avoids blowing out in intermediary stages of the processing pipeline. You have to choose something and so prophotoRGB, one of the widest RGB spaces out there is used. This is explained quite well here.
- Is there any reason not to standardize 8-bit tif or jpg files on AdobeRGB and leave sRGB for the rare cases when legacy support is more important than color integrity?
Actually legacy issues are rampant. Even now, color management is very spotty, even in shops oriented towards professionals. Also, arguably the largest destination for digital file output, the web, is almost not color managed. sRGB remains king unfortunately. It could be so much better if everybody used Safari or Firefox, but that clearly is not the case yet.
- And standardize 16 bit formats on the widest gamut supported by whatever you're doing with it? - ProPhoto for editing, and maybe whatever gamut is recommended by other software or hardware vendors for special purposes...
Yes, if you go 16 bits, there is no point not doing prophotoRGB.
Personally, all my web photos are presented through Flash, which supports AdobeRGB even if the browser proper does not. So I don't have legacy browsers to worry about myself.
Flash only supports non-sRGB images if you have enabled it yourself. NONE of the included flash templates in Lightroom for example enable it.
that IE was the last browser to be upgraded for colorspace support (ie9)
AFAIK (I don't do windows, so I have not tested IE9 myself), IE 9 still is not color managed. The only thing it does is when it encounters a jpeg with a ICC profile different than sRGB is translate it to sRGB and send that to the monitor without using the monitor profile. That is not color management at all. It is rather useless and completely contrary to what Microsoft themselves said many years ago well behaved browsers should do. It is also contrary to all of Windows 7 included utilities for image display. Really weird! Wide gamut displays are becoming more and more prevalent and this is backwards. Even if IE9 does this halfassed color transform, you can still not standardize on adobeRGB as it will take years for IE versions to really switch over. Many people still use IE6 and only recently has my website's access switched over to mostly IE8. Don't hold your breath for this.
Amazingly, in 2010, the only correctly color managed browser on windows is still Safari as Firefox doesn't support v4 icc monitor profiles and IE9 doesn't color manage at all except for translating between spaces to sRGB which is not very useful. Chrome can be made to color manage on windows apparently with a command line switch. On Macs the situation is better since Safari, Chrome (only correctly on 10.6) and Firefox (only with v2 ICC monitor profiles) all color manage. However, on mobile platforms, not a single browser color manages!

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Hello,
I am a professional photographer and I am setting up a new PC (i7, Windows 7 64bit). But I have some troubles to choose the graphic card.
I use Lightroom and Photoshop CS5 3, no video editing.
Between the Open GL, Open CL, CUDA accelerations etc ... professional graphic cards models and consumer ones I am lost!
The Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti seems more powerful and more versatile but I tell myself that if Nvidia has professional range there must be a reason.
So in Photoshop CS5 and Lightroom 3 what would be the best: GeForce GTX 560 Ti or Nvidia Quadro 600?
http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GPUs/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-quadro-600-us.html
Any reason to get a Quadro 2000?
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-quadro-2000-us.html
Or the graphic card doesn’t matter much and I should take an entry-level GeForce to enjoy the HDMI and the silence? Which one then?
Does the Quadro 600 manages 10bits display 10bits? And the Geforce?
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The only 3D application I use is Google Earth in 3D mode, does it make any difference?
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You say "no video editing"... If that's going to be the case, and you won't use the Mercury engine in the Adobe Premiere Pro package, which needs the nVidia Cuda subsystem, then I recommend you consider the ATI brand over nVidia.
Why?
Because while neither brand's developers (ATI or nVidia) always release perfect drivers, I find ATI display drivers to be of consistently higher quality than that of nVidia releases. What this means to you is generally fewer crashes or quirks. ATI has also traditionally supported older cards into the future better than nVidia - this might matter to you in a few years.
People ask me what video card I would recommend, and right now that would be a VisionTek ATI Radeon HD 6670 1 GB GDDR5 card. I like this particular card because:
I've had 100% success with VisionTek cards in a number of different systems, not only initially but they have all run as long as I have used them, without ever breaking down.
The 6670 model uses very little power (under 70 watts) and as such doesn't stress your computer's power supply, need a separate power connection, nor make a lot of fan noise.
It's not the fastest card made for 3D gaming, but it's inexpensive and excellent for Photoshop. No matter what you choose, you should get a card that scores over 500 on the Passmark GPU benchmark, ideally over 1000: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/
The ATI Catalyst display driver implementations for the 4670/5670/6670 line of cards have been good and solid.
1 GB of on-card memory seems to be a good size, even for editing a lot of images, and GDDR5 memory provides faster access than DDR3.
You should know that besides using Photoshop heavily, I also develop OpenGL-based software as well, so I have some additional insight into driver implementations.
-Noel

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I'm using 64-bit Windows 7, Photoshop CS5 64-bit, and have 24GB of RAM. I've put together some panoramas - big ones, up to 20'-30' long. I know the 32-bit version of Photoshop on a 32-bit processor and OS had a page size limit of around 108" long or so. To print anything longer than that required the use of an expensive RIP.
Does anyone know if my 64-bit goodness will allow me to print panos that are 20 to 30 feet long, without having to purchase a RIP? I'd simply give it a try, but I hate to waste a ton of paper just to find out that it wouldn't print completely. Any ideas?
Thanks much!
Scott

I think that some print drivers have a limit too, you might want to state what driver you are using.
Some printers do not use a driver, but an export module, that should alleviate all limits.
I remember a very old 30.000 pixel limit, that, I think has been lifted. you want to check the reference documents.

I have a licensed version of PhotoShop CS5 and bought a CS6 upgrade. When I do upgrade it says license id not valid. What next? How can I contact support personel?

I have a licensed version of PhotoShop CS5 and bought a CS6 upgrade. When I do upgrade it says license id not valid. What next? How can I contact support personel?

Hi David,
You need to download CS6 Photoshop and enter the serial number for CS6 Photoshop and then you would be prompted to enter the serial number for qualifying product.
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CS5 and CS5.5 64-bit (Flash, Illustrator, Fireworks) ALL Crash Out of Nowhere on Windows 7 64-bit

ATTENTION ADOBE! Your CS5 and CS55 products crash continuously on Windows 7 64-Bit. And I don't mean just when I'm saving (which they do) or when I'm importing into Flash Pro (which it does); I'm saying it just completely dissappears just as if I hadn't even opened it. No error message whatsoever. Oh, and of course, ALL WORK GONE since my last save; And I don't think that I should have to save every 5 seconds!
IS THERE A FIX FOR THIS?
IF NOT...
PLEASE FIX THIS ISSUE BECAUSE WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON YOUR PRODUCTS; AND NOW THEY'RE COSTING US EVEN MORE WITH POOR PRODUCTIVITY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP REDOING THINGS; NEVERMIND ALL OF THE FRUSTRATION IT IS CAUSING!!!
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FLASH, ILLUSTRATOR, and FIREWORKS ALL EXHIBIT THE SAME SYMPTOMS.

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Is everyone in your office having this issue with Flash, Fireworks or Illustrator crash? How many people?
Did you upgrade to 64-bit from 32-bit?
Are you using an approved OS for your hardware; i.e. Dell recommends using?
Have you scanned your memory to see if its bad?
Do you have your memory in the right slots in your motherboard?
What apps are you using when Flash, Fireworks or Illustrator crash? If you are running Photoshop, Premiere or After Affects you might have to adjust their memory useage.
When Flash, Fireworks or Illustrator crash is your system having issues?
Have you checked the event logs in Windows to see if there are any error or critical events logged at or around the time when Flash, Fireworks or Illustrator crash?
Note you can also open a support ticket with Adobe on the issue and work that pretty far without paying $25 (which is not that much); if your business is losing money as you stated originally.

What kind of computer specs are required to smoothly run CS5 and future versions?

Hello,
I'm in search of a new laptop for running CS5. I checked the Adobe site for system specs (http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/design/tech-specs.html) and they look ridiculous -- I stopped reading at 1 GB RAM...
So my question is what should the system be like in order to smoothly run CS5 and the future versions CS6 and maybe even 7? I read that there have been problems with i7 processors. Is it true?
This far I have found:
- nVidia Quadro graphics card (are there different versions of this? how much memory the card should have?)
- 64bit Windows 7
- memory? how much is sufficient? 6 GB? Memory type/speed specs?
- processor? i5 or i7 or some else? (I'm in search of a laptop)
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Our company laptop brand is Dell and I tried to look for a suitable model. However, very few had the nVidia Quadro graphics card
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The laptops are mostly used for website and DTP publishing, photo editing, drawing (=Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign) but also for technical documentation (Framemaker). To some extent also video editing is done, but not yet very often. However, there are plans for this too. We also run MS SQL Express in some computers to run company-specific software. And of course the normal Office 2010 package. Virus scanner used is McAfee.

Hello,
I too agree with the points Mylenium stated. We have discussed about multiple computers (desktop & laptop), but people don't like the mess it would cause in terms of file syncronization etc. And it would also mean double effort for the IT to maintain all the software updates etc. in that many computers. We do work quite a lot in meetings etc. and work and collaborate directly with using these programs. So it would mean double work to first make notes in a meeting and then do work in another computer according to the notes. So the decision of using a good laptop is not random but thought.
Our current laptops were selected in the CS2 era and they have survived well updates up to CS4. I haven't yet tested what CS5.5 would do in terms of performance and usability. The idea of changing and configuring a computer every year according to the latest models and software requirements does not sound good. That's why I stated the point that the computer to be selected should survive at least a few CS updates.
SSDs. I don't see them pricely at all. We've changed SSDs to the current laptops and they increased their lifetime by at least two years. Incredible increase in speed! I really do recommend SSDs and would not even consider using mechanical drives anymore. In general I don't see the price of the laptop as problem -- it costs a lot more to configure and install the computer than the price of the computer. And if the computer is slow and/or needs to be changed often to a new model, it costs even more in lost employee performance.
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Full Screen in CS5 and CS5.1 is not Supporting the Menus Items like CS4 This is happening while

Full Screen in CS5 and CS5.1 is not Supporting the Menus Items like CS4
This is happening while working in the balck screen and using shortkut Keys for top menu. the tools are woring, but while using Alt Key to choosing the menu item. its not supporting. like the older vesions
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Can you please be a little more clear about what you expect it to do vs. what it's doing.
Are you using the "Full Screen With Menus" mode or the complete "Full Screen" mode? I just tried the "Full Screen With Menus" mode and was able to use the Alt key to initiate menu operations.
-Noel

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I run win7 64 bit 6 gig ram and have cs5 both 64 bit and 32 bit installed. Kept having ram issues running cs5 32 bit so after searching through forum found I should be using cs5 64bit as it uses more of my available ram.. however the plugins/filters I use in CS5 32 bit wont work in the cs5 64 bit program. Its all so frustrating... Is Adobe going to correct this ram issue for 32 bit? I have 6 gig ram and cs5 32 bit only uses half of it

Adobe can't work miracles... The "RAM issue" in general is that the 32 bit addresses provided by the 32 bit instruction set can only provide access to up to 4 gigabytes of RAM, or 2-3 gigabytes in practical terms, because of the way Windows handles addressing.
As far as your plug-ins go, most reputable plug-in makers are now offering 64 builds of their current products. But I assume you have some you can't get new versions for.
But back to where you say you "Kept having ram issues"... : Many people do a lot of stuff with 32 bit Photoshop...
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What is the speed/performance comparison between Soundbooth CS5 and Audition CS6?

Obviously, I don't need to be convinced about the difference. However, in demonstrating and working with Audition I didn't take a note of these speed differences. Does anyone have this information for business justification reasons?
I am looking for the speed of a sound file (*.wav, approximately 1-5minutes in length) rendering in Soundbooth CS5 and Audition CS6 as well as a comparison of doing 10 files (approximately 1-5 minutes in length each) in Soundbooth and in Audition CS6 (using batch processing) to *.mp3 with basic processes applied. Basic processes that I am checking are Noise Reduction, Trimming front and end silences, Normalization, and rendering to *.mp3 (from *.wav). If anyone can do this for me, that would be awesome!!

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Hello _durin_, yes all those are great arguments that I've already included; however, some people like to use accurate measures/times/processes...they want numbers.
So, do you (or anyone else) happen to know the render engine speed of 1 file in Soundbooth v. 1 file in Audition?
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Now I am moving towards the argumentation that it should replace everyone's Soundbooth, which is why I need the justification. I would run the tests myself over the current set of files, but with the license gone, I cannot.
Your real justification isn't going to be based on anything like dodgy process measurements at all, but this: Soundbooth is discontinued - there's very little, if any, support for it now, and there will be no updates to cope with OS changes, etc. Audition, on the other hand, is a long-term, well-supported software product that's under active development, and this is clearly intended to continue. Also there are business package deals to be done (like active subscriptions, etc) that simply weren't available to Soundbooth users, which companies can use far more flexibly. I think you'll find that arguements like this will cut far more mustard than any odious comparisons of 'speed' will.

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