CSS borders and padding

I have a CSS stylesheet (external) that defines a border for an image. I have a:link, a:visited, a:hover, a:active defined with padding. However there is a huge difference when I preview the page in IE7 vs IE8. IE8 renders the page like Firefox, Safari, Opera, and Chrome (I haven't tried a couple of the Mac browsers yet like Camino and Flock because I am authoring on a WIndows box, but I believe they will render the same as Firefox latest version).
Now, how can I get IE7 and IE8 to render the same? Basically IE7 puts a huge border at the top of the image pad. The image is 300x300pixels and my padding-top is set to 340pixels while padding is set to 20pixels. IE7 computes the padding as a 300 pixel margin at the top of the image while IE8 needs that large padding-top number to complete the box around the image and doesn't give an excessive border.

Copy & paste code below into a new blank HTML document (code view).
This is how my linked image displays in Safari, IE6 and FF3x. Border is 5px solid yellow and padding is 20px all around. I don't need conditional comments for IE.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<style type="text/css">
body {
font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;
text-align: center; /**for older browsers**/
background: #CCC;
#wrapper {
width: 970px;
margin: 0 auto; /**centered**/
background: #FFF;
border: 2px solid #333;
padding: 12px;
text-align: left;
/**linked images**/
a img {
border: 6px solid #FFFF00;
background:#0000FF;
padding:20px}
a:visited img {background:#000;}
a:hover img, a:focus img {background:#009900}
a:active img{background:#993300}
/**end linked images**/
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="wrapper">
<a href="#"><img src="movie-clapboard.jpg" alt="clapboard" width="300" height="356" border="0" /></a></div>

</body>
</html>
Nancy O.
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Hi Nancy:
The specific code that I am referring to is the CSS code governing the styling of the spry menu widget that only works in IE 6 if, and only if, it remains in the head of the web page. If removed and placed in a stylesheet, the IE plugins fail to compensate for the IE 6 "gap" bug. As I said, it doesn't make sense to me that, assuming specificity is addressed, that these can not be included in an external style sheet. I am looking for a) an explanation why they must remain embedded in the web page; and 2) any means by which I might be able to export them.
I will reproduce the specific css style (code) below: it should also be visable through reveal source --
Thanks again, Steve Webster.
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   these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
     These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
   .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
    .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
   You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
    They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
        MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
        MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
        MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned.
        MenuBarFixedCentered - - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                        and centered in its parent container.
        MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
    In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
   with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
    there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
#MenuBar {
    background-color:transparent;
   font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on onMenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                100% on submenu fonts. */
    font-weight: normal;
    font-size: 17px;
    font-style: normal;
    padding:0;
/* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
.MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
    display:none;
.MenuBarLeftShrink {
    float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarRightShrink {
    float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
    float: left;
    width: 80em;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
    float: none;
    width: 80em;
    margin-left:auto;
    margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
    clear:both;
    display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
    display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
    float: left;
    width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
    background-color:#000088;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:center;
    line-height:1.4em;
    color:#ffffff;
    background-color:transparent;
    padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
    width: 10em;
    width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: 15px;
    font-style: normal;
    background-color:#000088;
    padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
    border-width:0px;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none;
    padding: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-top: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-bottom: 10px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:left;
    line-height:1em;
    background-color:transparent;
    color:#ffffff;
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
    width: 240px;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #2E35A3;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
    background-color:#2E35A3;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
   min-width:0%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
    top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
    left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                    and your personal taste.
                   0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of theMenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                    on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                    menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                    the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
    z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top: 0px;
    left:100%;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
    top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
    left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in aselector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lotof these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes formodern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these,as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.jsscript.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
    margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
/* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
/* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
</style>

Still practicing my CSS layout, and IE 7 issues.

I've revamped my site, and I've been practicing with the last 4 sites or so with mostly CSS layout....definitely a work in progress. My site is the first I've tried with overlapping images and the whole z-index thing. Everything looks great, for the most part. My issue is ALWAYS ie7, and then my issue is monitors with lower screen resolution. My sticky notes are showing up at the top of the page in IE7, looks great in 8. Every other browser seems to look great as well, as long as the resolution of the monitor is higher. I'm hoping someone can help me with positioning my sticky notes, so they don't shove my flash out to the right side of the page. Here's the URL www.theresasheridan.com.
Another site with another IE 7 issue....www.viewcamera.com. Here the issue is that the image in the maincontent div is shoved way down the page. I want to keep my width at 450 px so that I can have my side borders. Anyone have any other suggestions for me pretty please?
Last IE 7 issue (thanks so much), www.losvaquerosridingclub.org. The background color is white under the spry menu, but again...only in IE7.
Thank you!!

You are absolutely right about the validator. Some of it is way beyond me too!
However, it seems to indicate that you have some tag confusion going on there, usually that's about missing a closing element. Fixing that is a good thing because it can screw your layout. Another thing the validator points out is the omission of a few of your alt="" text. That won't muck about with any layout issues but is worth adding if you have the time or inclination. I'm afraid I don't have time to look right now but if I get the chance I'll have a go later.
With your sticky notes, it struck me that you could use absolute positioning. The trick there is to place those elements in to a containing element, set that element to position: relative and then absolutely position the sticky notes using px dimensions where you want them in the page. At the moment, you are using floats on those two parts of the page but again, I haven't quite got the time to look in detail now.
With the float drop thing and width, you would do well to Google "Box Model CSS" or something similar. Width is not just the content width but also takes into account margin, border and padding. When you add those up, the width may be too big for the containing element width which will cause the content to "drop" or to be forced into a space that can accommodate it. The other snag with the Box Model is that different Browsers handle it differently. Sometimes what you need to do to create space in the page is to put padding on the nested element which constrains it's content without affecting the width of the container.
I'm a bit of a novice myself at this and it sounds a lot to get your head around. However there is a a logic to it and once you crack it, it gets easier.
One other tip is to use FireFox browser and get the Firbug plug-in. That lets you view the page in the browser and you can tweak your CSS "live" to get an idea of how things work together. Once you have what you want you then turn to DW to make your edits.
I hope that helps rather than misleads! As I say, I'll try to look later on but in the mean time, an expert might drop by.
And while I'm here, my feeling is that you might have done better to put each of your queries in different threads. Sometimes, to see several questions in one hit is a bit daunting and I think people here tend to leave the longer questions a bit until they have time.
Regards
Martin

How can I hide the borders and keep it as an option?

How can I hide the borders and keep it as an option? I had someone go into the css I believe, and make it so there were no borders visible on the page (I could see the dotted outline while working on it, but when pushed, it wasn't visible (which is what I wanted). They called it "noborders." Since I had to reinstall, it went away. Help?
I have Dreamweaver CS5.5

Try this site: CSS Border
Add code then type in a zero. Later add border size you want.
examples: border: 0px solid black;
or
border: 1px 000000;
or
     border-top-style: solid; 0px 000000;
     border-right-style: dotted; 0px 000000;
     border-bottom-style: solid; 2px 000000;
     border-left-style: dashed; 1px 000000;

Border and Padding different in IE and Firefox

The 2 vertical lines should be aligned with the edges of the
photos above, but are showing up differently in IE and Firefox.
http://zooop.net/birch_center/
CSS:
td#maintext {
padding-top:5px;
padding-bottom:0px;
padding-left:8px;
padding-right:30px;
line-height: 2.1;
#main_text_copy {
padding-top:30px;
padding-bottom:0px;
padding-left:25px;
padding-right:25px;
line-height: 2.1;
border-left-width: 1px;
border-left-style: solid;
border-left-color: #999999;
border-right-width: 1px;
border-right-style: solid;
border-right-color: #999999;
Emilie

> Is there a functional difference between specifying td
widths inside the
> td
> tag, vs the css file? Or do you just think it's easier
to manage?
My inclination is to always use CSS if I need to specify such
things. They
function the same.
> would the css be something like this:
>
> td#maintext {
> width: 400px;
> padding-left:8px;
> padding-right:30px;
> }
>
> or is it column-width: 400px;
The former.
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> Thank you, I'll try that.
>
> Is there a functional difference between specifying td
widths inside the
> td
> tag, vs the css file? Or do you just think it's easier
to manage?
>
> would the css be something like this:
>
> td#maintext {
> width: 400px;
> padding-left:8px;
> padding-right:30px;
> }
>
> or is it column-width: 400px;
>

OT: Tutorial | How to author HTML, CSS, jQuery, and PHP 5.4 in Dreamweaver CC

Hi all,
Dreamweaver CC 2014 comes with a host of tutorials for both beginners and advanced users. In this tutorial you will learn how the latest support for HTML5, CSS3, jQuery and PHP5.4 in Dreamweaver can help you author static, dynamic, mobile or responsive projects.
We would love to hear your opinion on this tutorial after you complete the training.
https://helpx.adobe.com/dreamweaver/how-to/html-css-jquery-php-dreamweaver.html?scid=socia l26198776
Thanks,
Preran

jlig wrote:
> David, I just read thru the sample chapter 7 "Building
Site Navigation with the
> Spry Menu bar".
> - Finally a Spry resource that is friendly , thorough
and easy to follow
> along.
> - I especially like your honest comments in the "Mixed
Blessing" section.
Glad you found it useful. I felt it was essential to present
a balanced
view of Spry widgets, rather than giving a starry-eyed one.
> Trying to adjust the Tab Colors, Fonts, CSS page sizes,
margins, borders, etc
> is a bit of a nightmare for me. I know it is just a
matter of learning, but it
> would help to have resources like yours that take all of
the practical
> considerations into mind for end-users.
It is quite easy to do simple things with CSS, but it's very
powerful,
and has a long learning curve. Keep at it, and you'll get
there in the end.
> ps: How about a similiar new resource: "The Essential
Guide to Dreamweaver
> CS3 with ADDT, SPRY, CSS, AJAX and PHP / ColdFusion"
I'm not a big fan of ADDT (Adobe knows my opinions, because I
have told
them directly). I would like to see how ADDT develops before
committing
to writing about it. As for ColdFusion, I experimented with
it a long
time ago, but decided I preferred to improve my knowledge of
PHP before
branching out into other fields.
David Powers, Adobe Community Expert
Author, "The Essential Guide to Dreamweaver CS3" (friends of
ED)
Author, "PHP Solutions" (friends of ED)
http://foundationphp.com/

My MacBook Pro was stolen last night. I need the serial number. It is not showing up on my devices list. My iPads and iPhones are. I have used it to to sync my phones and pads as well having it registered with apple. Any thoughts? Thanks

My MacBook Pro was stolen last night. I need the serial number. It is not showing up on my devices list. My iPads and iPhones are. I have used it to to sync my phones and pads as well having it registered with apple. Any thoughts? Thanks

Click here: https://supportprofile.apple.com/MySupportProfile.do
SIgn in with your Apple ID, the same one you used to access this support forum.
Hopefully, you will see a list of all the devices you registered with your Apple ID, including their serial numbers. Let me know how this works out.
Edit to add: If you enabled "find my imac" on your Pro, you ought to be able to remotely lock it, or even wipe its memory. Click http://www.icloud.com/ sign in with your Apple ID and click the big green "find my iPhone" icon (nevermind the name, it will find all your devices provided they're running Lion or iOS 5).
Then file a police report and nail the b*****d.

Can I run two midi controllers (keyboard and pad) at the same time?

ie.....can I play keyboard and use a pad for an effect of some sort - creating two instraments at the same time. I want to play say, piano on one instrament w/ a keyboard and at the same time play a synth effect on a trigger pad with another instrament (es 2)????????

Yes.
set 2 instruments to different midi channels.set the keyboard and pad to match.
record enable both tracks in arrange.
check: file/song settings/recording/auto demix by channel if multi-track recording
this will allow you to record them both.

Borders and shading, Move all objects at once!

*Hi all, hope every1's good!! I hope someone can help me with this problem!, a friend has asked me to do a thank you card for him cos his hosting a dinner party for his work colleagues, now i know that pages 08 can do this because i've checked and started designing the card but i got stuck, here's the problem(s):*
*1. I wanna know how to move all the images or shapes all together (e.g i drew a rounded rectangle shape inside another rounded rectangle and added text to it!) i'd like to move it all at once!*
*2. If you noticed when ever you use word and wanted the documents to have borders and shades, they are all there but i cant seem to find this feature in pages 08 (is this feature present?). what I'm trying to do is change or add how the borders and shades look.*
*Thanks for the help.*

Nagoya wrote:
*1. I wanna know how to move all the images or shapes all together (e.g i drew a rounded rectangle shape inside another rounded rectangle and added text to it!) i'd like to move it all at once!*
Select the different objects then
Arrange > Group
*2. If you noticed when ever you use word and wanted the documents to have borders and shades, they are all there but i cant seem to find this feature in pages 08 (is this feature present?). what I'm trying to do is change or add how the borders and shades look.*
Insert a rectangular shape.
Go to Inspector > Graphic
define the fill color
Stroke > Picure Frame
adjust the width and the color
Arrange > Send object to the background
From time to time, it's useful to look in the Help or in the PDF Users Guide.
What I responded is described with more details in these tools which are also for you
Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 1 aoqt 2008 18:48:11)

From Word DOC to Acrobat PDF... borders and lines get screwed up.

I've been looking this up for days now and have yet to find a solution.
I have a MS Word document that has a bunch of tables with borders and sometimes just text with borders for stylistic reasons. In Word, it all looks perfect.
But, when I convert it to PDF using Acrobat, many of those borders get screwed up in various random ways.
Sometimes certain borders get thicker, sometimes thinner, sometimes invisible altogether. Sometimes it's only certain lines of the same border (just the left side, or just the top). I see no real pattern to what's causing it to only happen in certain cases only.
What makes it extra annoying is that if I zoom in or out a certain amount, the borders will look the way they are supposed to look. Some will look perfect at 100% zoom only, and some will look perfect at 75% zoom only.
This has been driving me insane. Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Converting Word (table) to pdf - lines screwed up - googled as far back as 2004.
BUG STILL exists. HELP/FIX PLEASE?
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/missing-table-lines-conversion-pdf-t878406.html
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/305508
Trying to convert any word doc with tables (& shading) to PDF
- basic table, black borders throughout
- shaded headings, black outline border
- shaded subheadings, black outline border
However when convert to PDF:
- 'displays' NO top cell border for some/all shaded rows
- shows diff thickness lines
- each conversion, diff lines missing/incorrectly sized
- however converted pdf prints perfectly fine
Adobe know about the bug, per PRMW's (Paul's) post on 2009-07-15 15:44:34, however only offered a painful time consuming workaround using non-freeware Adobe Pro:
http://acrobatusers.com/forum/pdf-creation/word-pdf-table-lines-missing-or-faded#comment-7 8139
- "It is not feasable to edit 200+ tables in the PDF every time the PDF is generated, as we maintain the original in word.
- "This complete issue seems to have been passed off by Adobe as no problem and that there is a work around. I consider this an unsatisfactory response from a major product supplier.
Microsoft TechNet & NitroPdf said it's an Adobe issue & to contact Adobe to fix the bug.
Tried, but proble exists:
* Word 2010 > File > Save & Send > Create PDF/XPS Document
* Word 2010 > Save As > Pdf
* Word 2010 > Print > PrimoPdf (even tried properties > advanced > dpi 300/600/2400) > Custom
* Word 2010 > Print > doPDF v7 (even tried 'high quality images)
* Word 2010 > Print > PDFCreator
* Word 2010 > Print > CutePdf Writer (even worse)
* Nitro Pdf Reader > Convert From File > (even worse)
* www.pdfonline.com > Word to Pdf (even worse)
* www.wordtopdf.com > email: Sorry, an unexpected conversion failure occurred when converting your file.
Software:
* Word 2010 - tried with .docx & .doc (97 to 2003)
* Adobe Reader 8.2.6 (freeware), then upgraded to Adobe Reader X 10.0.1 (freeware)
* GhostScript 9.01 w32 (freeware)
* CutePdf Writer (freeware)
* PrimoPdf (freeware)
* Nitro Pdf Reader 1.4.0.11 (freeware)
* doPDF 7.2.361 (freeware)
* PDFCreator 1.2.0 (opensource - www.pdfforge.org)
Seems to display better at 300%, but lines still not right (even at 2400%), but who views pdf's at this zoom?
Message was edited by: shell_l_d

How can I use external CSS, JavaScript and Images in PeopleSoft Portal?

I am developing a website and I need to put my CSS, JavaScript and IMG files in a folder on the server that can be used by my HTML objects.
Where should I put the images? How do I get the HTML objects can read these images?
I've tried several things like:
<link rel="stylesheet" href="<%=psCtxPath%><%=psHome%>\MyStyleSheet.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<link rel="stylesheet" href="\portal\MyStyleSheet.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<link rel="stylesheet" href="\ps\images\portal_pa\MyStyleSheet.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">

Hi Jim!
Yes, I am using the HTML Object Application Designer. Below is my HTML:
<html>
<head>
<title>My Portal</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<script language='javascript' src='/jscript/MyJavaScript.js'></script>
<link rel="stylesheet" href="/css/MyStyleSheet.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" bottommargin="0" rightmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
<img src="/images/MyLogo.jpg"/>
</body>
</html>
But, the portal is not reading my css, js and images.

Create a css file and use it

Hi
i use jdev 11.1.1.7
I have several items on the page . for example panelFormLayout .
i want declare several property (background-color ,...) and assing it to all of panelFormLayout .
so whenever i change color of background , background color of ALL panelFormLayout change easily .
(I created a css file and declared my property in it but i cant use it !!! )
NOW i hope to create a CSS file or(any thing you suggest) for this reason and use it .
How can i do this ?
Thanks alot

You can also download the stand-alone Skin Editor to help you create the skins and style you want.
A bit more on the topic here:
https://blogs.oracle.com/shay/entry/styling_specific_adf_components_with

New layout, CSS errors and Firefox problems

Hi
Could it be that some of the Firefox problems are caused by:
1) The wrong mime type for the CSS files? Currently it appears to be:
application/x-css
shouldn't it be
text/css
2) Errors in the CSS files and inline CSS of.
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/categoryHome.jspa?categoryID=84
Can recommend using:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
==== New layout ======
The border error on the download button has been fixed, but the alt attribute of the upper right search icon is still "faq", shouldn't it be "Search"
<img src="images/search-16x16.gif" width="16" height="16" border="0" alt="Search">
Axel

There are a number of fixes still to be made, but most of them will wait until our upgrade (still a few months out).

Ms word tables borders and shading

I'm using the "word tables borders and shading.vi" and trying to put a border around the first row including between columns and the "inside line style" active x function in the word_set_table_borders.vi is being ignored. The file is attached. Open the library and run the word table.vi. You will have to create test.doc on the root directory on the hard drive. Any suggestions?
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I ran your code and it worked fine. The top row of the table had a darker rectangle around it. I did have problems opening the file and it crashed my LV at first. I suspect there may be a corruption in the binary executable of the VI. Try pressing control-shift-run arrow on your top level VI to force LabVIEW to rebuild the binary executable of the VI.

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