CUMULATIVE AND NONCUMULATIVE KEYFIGURES
Hello,
could any one please let me kno what are cumulative and noncumulative keyfigures
when we do use it... and what are cumulative cubes and noncumulative cubes.,.
can any one explain with scenario...
will reward full points
looking for your reply
regards
Guru
Non-cumulative values are those key figures that are measured in relation to a period in time; they cannot be meaningfully cumulated over time. For this u need a reference value.
Eg : Stock in Warehouse
Cumulative values are those key figures that can be cumulated using all characteristics, thus also using time.
Eg:Sales Revenue.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/80/1a62dee07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
Hope it Helps
Chetan
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Cumulative and Non Cumulative Keyfigures
Hi,
What are Cumulative and Non Cumulative Keyfigures..? and
what is the lik betwqeen these keyfigures and the option " NO MARKER UPDATE " in the manage tab of infocube?
Can you please tell eloborately?
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Naresh.Hi,
Cumulative values are those key figures that are cumulated using all characteristics, thus also using time.
Non-cumulative values are those key figures that are measured in relation to a period in time; Non-cumulative values are summarized over time using so-called exception aggregation.
In Inventory, When you initialize the stock by using BX Data source. It will bring the current status of the stock by calculating the past transactions happens in all the storage locations.
After loading the Data into Cube you compress the cube with Marker update, then system will take a reference point for the marker. Next when you load BF for the historical data, you compress with "No marker update". This may not be necessary in all the cases. If the client requires reporting on the past data you need to extract this. This time you run the info package with init Delta. If historical data is not required you can run the info pack INIT t without Data transfer.
In the above case you use No marker update, because you have initialized the stock by calculating all the historical data and then you are loading historical data, there would be data mismatch happen to avoid that use no marker so that it will not add to the reference point. Later you can run the delta loads by using BF data source. This time you need to use "Marker update" because all the delta movements are new they should be updated to reference point. Similarly UM also With marker updated for Price revaluations. Why Reference point: When you use Non Cumulative KF in the Cube, During query execution the data will come from Reference point which is set by marker update
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What is the difference between cumulative and non cumulative keyfigures?
Hi Friends
What is the difference between cumulative and non cumulative keyfigures, when we r using the cumulative and non cumulative
Regards
RavindraHi Ravindra,
Have a look at the help:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/8f/da1640dc88e769e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/80/1a62f8e07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
Go through these.
Re: Types of non-cumulative keyfigures
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/8f/da1640dc88e769e10000000a155106/content.htm
See the following threads
non-cumulatives KF in reporting
Re: use of non cumulative keyfigure
Re: When do we use Non-Cumulative values?
Key figures:
1. Cumulative Vaules
2. Non Cumulative Values
Cumulative Values:
Cumulative Values are Keyfigures for which Keyfigure Values are must posted in every time unit that reported on (= time period specific Values).
Example:
Revenue
Non Cumulative Values:
Non Cumulative Values are Keyfigures for which KeyFigures are only evaluated for selected time Periods.
Cumulative Keyfigures With Exception Aggregation:
It's a 'normal' KF (with summation, min or max as aggregation behaviour), but you set some exception in this behaviour...for example, you can say that a KF, normally aggregated by 'summation', have to show the max value (or the average, or '0' or something else), that is the 'exception aggregation' when you use it in combination with 0DOC_DATE (or other char), that is the 'exception aggregation char reference'...in this case OLAP processor give to you the possibility to see your KF with different behaviour depending from you use 0DOC_DATE (in our example, MAX) or something else (SUMMATION).
Non Cumulative keyfigure with Associated Single Delta:
If you have a stock KF that is fed from only one (other) movement KF that can assume positive and negative sign.
KF1 (initial) STOCK (non-***.) = 100
KF2 flow = -30
KF2 flow = 70
KF1 (final) STOCK (non-***.) = 140
Non-cumulative key figure with associated in and outflow:
This is the case of 2LIS_03_BF KF stocks fields.
Here, we have the same situation in point 2, but you will have not only ONE flow KF, but TWO, one dedicated to in and another one dedicated to out !
You have to use this scenario if you have no KF that have positive and negative sign, but two KFs each one representing positive (in) and negative (out) logical sign!
KF1 (initial) STOCK (non-***.) = 100
KF2 (out))flow = 30
KF3 (in)flow = 70
KF1 (final) STOCK (non-***.) = 140
Website Addresses For Non Cumulative KeyFigures:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/80/1a62dee07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/frameset.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/82/f2dc37f0f12313e10000009b38f8cf/content.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw31/helpdata/en/82/f2dc37f0f12313e10000009b38f8cf/content.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/d2/e0173f5ff48443e10000000a114084/content.html
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Cumulative and Non-cumulative KFs
Guys,
so I am confused about cumulative/Non-cumulative keyfigures. I read what it says about them on help.sap.com
Flow/non-cumulative value
You can select the key figure as a cumulative value. Values for this key figure have to be posted in each time unit, for which values for this key figure are to be reported.
Non-cumulative with non-cumulative change
The key figure is a non-cumulative. You have to enter a key figure that represents the non-cumulative change of the non-cumulative value. There do not have to be values for this key figure in every time unit. For the non-cumulative key figure, values are only stored for selected times (markers). The values for the remaining times are calculated from the value in a marker and the intermediary non-cumulative changes.
Non-Cumulative with inflow and outflow
The key figure is a non-cumulative. You have to specify two key figures that represent the inflow and outflow of a non-cumulative value.
For non-cumulatives with non-cumulative change, or inflow and outflow, the two key figures themselves are not allowed to be non-cumulative values, but must represent cumulative values. They must be the same type (for example, amount, and quantity) as the non-cumulative value."
and also checked a few threads on sdn but still a little confused about their purpose.
Can someone tell me when do we use which one?
Thanks,
RG.Hi Ram,
Cummulative & Non Cummulative Key Figures :
Basically the key figures are of two types cumulative and non cumulative.
Cumulative are the normal one which you use always and they always bring the new values of the key figures in the delta that is if suppose A has value 10 and after change the new value is 20 then you will use cumulative key figures there, and your delta( new value) will bring 20.
but suppose your key figures field only the change in the prior value that is in this case the delta in the key figure value will bring 10 (20-10- change of 10 )as new value in the key figure A then you will have to model it through the non cumulaitve key figures.
Now
1) Cumulative is for the first case that is if the key figure alwyas brings the new values of the key figure and not the change sin the key fiures value.
2)NCum. value with NCUM value change:
In this case ther is only one field which brings the changes for a particualr key figure and you ahve to define that key figure as non cumulative.
Ex: In case of stock only one filed brings both ingoing value and outgoing value so 10 ,-4,100,-34.....
In this case you will this option and use the key figure here in the space provided.
3) In this case you haev two separate key figures one for the inflow of stocks and one for the outflow of the stocks.
you use one key figure for the inflow and one key figure for the outflow.
The main key figure autiomatically takes care of the logic and gives the correct output upon the summation
net value of stocks( inflow- outflow).
Also do remember in this case the key figure for inflow and out flow are the basic key figures that is cumulative key figures.
A non-cumulative is a non-aggregating key figure on the level of one or more objects that is always displayed in relation to time. Examples of non-cumulatives include headcount, account balance and material inventory. here the aggregation of key figure is based on the another info object
There are two different ways to define non-cumulative key figures:
u2022 Non-cumulative key figure with non-cumulative changes:
Before you can define the non-cumulative key figure, an additional cumulative key figure containing the non-cumulative change must exist as an InfoObject.
u2022 Non-cumulative key figure with inflows and outflows
There has to be two additional cumulative key figures as InfoObjects for non-cumulative key figures - one for inflows and one for outflows. The cumulative key figures have to have the same technical properties as the non-cumulative key figure, and the aggregation and exception aggregation have to be SUM.
Features of non-cummulative key figures
A non-aggregating key Figure.
Records are not summarized for Reporting
Exception Aggregation is being applied on these key figures on the level of one or more info objects usually with time .
Examples: Head Count, Account balance, Material stock
consider simple senario
Date Net Stock Quantity Sales Revenue
01.02.2005 40 1000
02.02.2005 50 2000
03.02.2005 25 3000
this is the query output if stock quantity has treated as cummulative and non-cummulative key figures
if stock quantity taken as a cummulative key figure
Date NET STOCK QUANTITY SALES REVENUE
01.02.2005 30 1000
02.02.2005 50 2000
03.02.2005 20 3000
RESULT 100 6000
in the above result the key figure has aggregated to the total value that wont give sense to the net stock quantity
if stock quantity taken as non-cummulative key figure
Date Net Stock Quantity (LAST) Sales Revenue
01.02.2005 30 1000
02.02.2005 50 2000
03.02.2005 20 3000
RESULT 20 6000
Hope it helps you.
Thanks & Regards,
SD -
Cumulative and Non Cumulative KF
Hi all,
What are Cumulative and Non Cumulative KFs. How do we create it and where do we use them?
Thanks in advance,
SekharHai <b>Sekhar</b>...
Some of the Information Given Below......
<b>Key figures:</b>
1. Cumulative Vaules
2. Non Cumulative Values
<b>Cumulative Values</b>:
Cumulative Values are Keyfigures for which Keyfigure Values are must posted in every time unit that reported on (= time period specific Values).
Example:
Revenue
<b>Non Cumulative Values:</b>
Non Cumulative Values are Keyfigures for which KeyFigures are only evaluated for selected time Periods.
<b>Cumulative Keyfigures With Exception Aggregation</b>:
It's a 'normal' KF (with summation, min or max as aggregation behaviour), but you set some exception in this behaviour...for example, you can say that a KF, normally aggregated by 'summation', have to show the max value (or the average, or '0' or something else), that is the 'exception aggregation' when you use it in combination with 0DOC_DATE (or other char), that is the 'exception aggregation char reference'...in this case OLAP processor give to you the possibility to see your KF with different behaviour depending from you use 0DOC_DATE (in our example, MAX) or something else (SUMMATION).
<b>Non Cumulative keyfigure with Associated Single Delta:</b>
If you have a stock KF that is fed from only one (other) movement KF that can assume positive and negative sign.
KF1 (initial) STOCK (non-***.) = 100
KF2 flow = -30
KF2 flow = 70
KF1 (final) STOCK (non-***.) = 140
<b>Non-cumulative key figure with associated in and outflow:</b>
This is the case of 2LIS_03_BF KF stocks fields.
Here, we have the same situation in point 2, but you will have not only ONE flow KF, but TWO, one dedicated to in and another one dedicated to out !
You have to use this scenario if you have no KF that have positive and negative sign, but two KFs each one representing positive (in) and negative (out) logical sign!
KF1 (initial) STOCK (non-***.) = 100
KF2 (out))flow = 30
KF3 (in)flow = 70
KF1 (final) STOCK (non-***.) = 140
<b>Website Addresses For Non Cumulative KeyFigures:</b>
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/80/1a62dee07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/frameset.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/82/f2dc37f0f12313e10000009b38f8cf/content.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw31/helpdata/en/82/f2dc37f0f12313e10000009b38f8cf/content.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/d2/e0173f5ff48443e10000000a114084/content.html
Re: Non-Cumulative keyfigure example
Re: Types of non-cumulative keyfigures
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Adding Cumulative and Non Cumulative Key Figure
Hi All,
Can we add Cumulative and Non Cumulative KF in a query and display the resuly.
regards,
JeetYes, you can.
Cumulative KF at query level are same as non cumulative.
Hope it helps.
regards -
Hi All,
What is the exact deff between cumulative and non cumulative?
give me a simple sceneriao it would be very helpful...?
thanks
kiranHI ,
Cumulative : Normal Key figures are cumulative
Example : Say Key figure X has on 15th you have Qty 20 & oon 16th you have Qty 10
So when you run the report you can see the value for X Kf as Qty 30.
So,here the values are cumulated
Non -Cumulative : Derivative of the two cumulative key figures showing in the New key figure is Non -Cumulative
Example: Non - Cumulative KF is Qty total stock
Qty total stock is the derivative of Qty Reciept Stock & Qty Issued Stock
Date Qty Receipt stock Qty Issue Stock Qty Total Stock
15th | 20 | 10 | = 10
16th | 10 + 15 =25 | 02 | = 23
Hope you can understand
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Hari -
Hi,
I am a bit confused about cumulative and levels. When I backup using RMAN, and specify incremental cumulative with level = 2 every day, am I not backing everything that has changed since level 0 (or a full backup done over weekend) every day?.
Why should I concern my self with level at all ?. I just want to backup all incremental changes that happened every single day during the week so that I can recover the instance with using two backups. Incremental cumulative means just that right ? Why should I specify level?
Pls clarify my confusion.
Thanks
VissuHi,
Cumulative values are those key figures that are cumulated using all characteristics, thus also using time.
Non-cumulative values are those key figures that are measured in relation to a period in time; Non-cumulative values are summarized over time using so-called exception aggregation.
In Inventory, When you initialize the stock by using BX Data source. It will bring the current status of the stock by calculating the past transactions happens in all the storage locations.
After loading the Data into Cube you compress the cube with Marker update, then system will take a reference point for the marker. Next when you load BF for the historical data, you compress with "No marker update". This may not be necessary in all the cases. If the client requires reporting on the past data you need to extract this. This time you run the info package with init Delta. If historical data is not required you can run the info pack INIT t without Data transfer.
In the above case you use No marker update, because you have initialized the stock by calculating all the historical data and then you are loading historical data, there would be data mismatch happen to avoid that use no marker so that it will not add to the reference point. Later you can run the delta loads by using BF data source. This time you need to use "Marker update" because all the delta movements are new they should be updated to reference point. Similarly UM also With marker updated for Price revaluations. Why Reference point: When you use Non Cumulative KF in the Cube, During query execution the data will come from Reference point which is set by marker update
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What is Free Characteristics,Filter Area and 1ROWCOUNT keyfigure?
What is Free Characteristics,Filter Area and 1ROWCOUNT keyfigure?
What is Free Characteristics,Filter Area and 1ROWCOUNT keyfigure?
Hi M.V,
Free chars are those chars that you can use to drill down your query as per your requirement at run time, i.e. once you have executed the query you can make your filter or drill down options more flexible by using the free chars.
Filter Area : Filter area is that area where you can specify the Variable's required for input, you can also restrict some charcteristic values directly as well.
For e.g -> for ur query requirement is to take date as input from user, so u will create a variable based on the calday info-object and place it in filter area.
Directly restricting characte.
Restricting country to 'India', now u will get the data onnly where the country is india.
Any restriction that u specify in filter area will globally effect your query. i.e. u will see only that data ouput which meets the specified restrictions
1ROWCOUNT : you get field 1rowcount when u create any DSO. By default system adds this field that contains value 1 for each row.
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BEx query with keyfigure rank in row, chars and other keyfigures in columns
Hi All,
I have a BEx query with Plant and Region in rows and two keyfigures(% and rank calculation) in the column. Now my requirement is to display rank in the first column, plant and % cal. in the next columns in query output.
Query ouput should look like :
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1 XYZ 63.00
2 ABC 76.94 and soon.
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Thanks
Eric.Hi Jerome,
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Processing classes, cumulations, and evaluation classes for Surcharge
Hi Experts,
As I am working on Indian payroll in form 24Q the surcharge is not calculating properly it is displaying the TDS amount.
and in surcharge column of form 16 is appearing total Taxable amount.
Can any body send the nessessary sreen shots of process, cumulations and evaluation classes for the surcharge wage type.
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Difference between cumulative and non-cumulative key figures
Hi,
What is the difference between cumulative and non-cumulative key figures and under what conditions they are used. What is snapshort and where it is used.Hi.............
Basically the key figures are of two types cumulative and non cumulative.
Cumulative are the normal one which you use always and they always bring the new values of the key figures in the delta that is if suppose A has value 10 and after change the new value is 20 then you will use cumulative key figures there, and your delta( new value) will bring 20.
but suppose your key figures field only the change in the prior value that is in this case the delta in the key figure value will bring 10 (20-10- change of 10 )as new value in the key figure A then you will have to model it through the non cumulaitve key figures.
Now
1) Cumulative is for the first case that is if the key figure alwyas brings the new values of the key figure and not the change sin the key fiures value.
2)NCum. value with NCUM value change:
In this case ther is only one field which brings the changes for a particualr key figure and you ahve to define that key figure as non cumulative.
Ex: In case of stock only one filed brings both ingoing value and outgoing value so 10 ,-4,100,-34.....
In this case you will this option and use the key figure here in the space provided.
3) In this case you haev two separate key figures one for the inflow of stocks and one for the outflow of the stocks.
you use one key figure for the inflow and one key figure for the outflow.
The main key figure autiomatically takes care of the logic and gives the correct output upon the summation
net value of stocks( inflow- outflow).
Also do remember in this case the key figure for inflow and out flow are the basic key figures that is cumulative key figures.
A non-cumulative is a non-aggregating key figure on the level of one or more objects that is always displayed in relation to time. Examples of non-cumulatives include headcount, account balance and material inventory. here the aggregation of key figure is based on the another info object
There are two different ways to define non-cumulative key figures:
Non-cumulative key figure with non-cumulative changes:
Before you can define the non-cumulative key figure, an additional cumulative key figure containing the non-cumulative change must exist as an InfoObject.
Non-cumulative key figure with inflows and outflows
There has to be two additional cumulative key figures as InfoObjects for non-cumulative key figures - one for inflows and one for outflows. The cumulative key figures have to have the same technical properties as the non-cumulative key figure, and the aggregation and exception aggregation have to be SUM.
Features of non-cummulative key figures
A non-aggregating key Figure.
Records are not summarized for Reporting
Exception Aggregation is being applied on these key figures on the level of one or more info objects usually with time .
Examples: Head Count, Account balance, Material stock
consider simple senario
Date Net Stock Quantity Sales Revenue
01.02.2005 40 1000
02.02.2005 50 2000
03.02.2005 25 3000
this is the query output if stock quantity has treated as cummulative and non-cummulative key figures
if stock quantity taken as a cummulative key figure
Date NET STOCK QUANTITY SALES REVENUE
01.02.2005 30 1000
02.02.2005 50 2000
03.02.2005 20 3000
RESULT 100 6000
in the above result the key figure has aggregated to the total value that wont give sense to the net stock quantity
if stock quantity taken as non-cummulative key figure
Date Net Stock Quantity (LAST) Sales Revenue
01.02.2005 30 1000
02.02.2005 50 2000
03.02.2005 20 3000
RESULT 20 6000
Hope this helps you..............
Regards,
Debjani................
Edited by: Debjani Mukherjee on Sep 15, 2008 7:22 AM -
Cumulative and non-cumulative for key figure
Hi,
In the aggregation tab, we have the aggregate type SUM, Max or Min.
we also have the comulative/non-cumulative values.
what's the difference between comulative and non-cumulative values? it would be good to have some example for illustration. and does comulative and non-cumulative have any relation with aggregate type?
Many Thanks
JonathanHi,
what's the difference between comulative and non-cumulative values?
Cumulative values are those key figures that are cumulated using all characteristics, thus also using time.
Example: sales revenue, weight, etc.
Non-cumulative values are those key figures that are measured in relation to a period in time; that is to say they cannot be meaningfully cumulated over time. Non-cumulative values are summarized over time using so-called exception aggregation.Example:stock quantities/-values, number of employees, account balances, etc.
Does comulative and non-cumulative have any relation with aggregate type?
Different types of non-cumulative keyfigures.....are....
1.Non-cumulativekey figure = cumulative keyfigure with excep.aggregation
2.Non-cumulativekey figure withassociated singledelta (cumulative)
3.Non-cumulativekey figure withassociated in-andoutflow(cumulative)
check these links:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/93ed1695-0501-0010-b7a9-d4cc4ef26d31
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f83be790-0201-0010-4fb0-98bd7c01e328
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/92c0aa90-0201-0010-17b1-bf5b11c71257
hope it helps...
Regards
chandra sekhar
Edited by: chandra sekhar t on Nov 28, 2008 2:18 PM -
Non-cumulative and time dependence
We are using the Inventory Cube (0IC_C03) and would like to create a historical report that shows over the last months what inventory is active or discontinued. The discontinued flag on 0MATERIAL is only the current status. So if a material is discontinued now, it does not mean that it was discontinued last month.
We investigated using time dependant master data as a navigational attribute. But when reporting with time dependant data you have to specify a key date. This works fine for running the report for a single time period, but we would like to report the changes in multiple time periods.
We also investigated adding the status to 0IC_C03. But since it is non-cumulative I don't think that this would provide correct results. (i.e. if I have 100 in inventory for part A at active status, then the status changes to discontinued, there is no inventory transaction that is created because of the status change. BI will have no idea that the 100 is now discontinued.)
Can anyone recommend a modeling approach that might fit our need? Or do you see any false assumptions I made above?
Thanks,
Chris RobertsonChris Robertson,
You can achive this using Monthly Snap Shot - Inventory management. Instead of using non-cumulative keyfigures.
[Inventory management with SnapShots and cumulative key figures|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f83be790-0201-0010-4fb0-98bd7c01e328]
Hope it Helps
Srini
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