Customer and Generic extraction difference ?

Hi ya,
Could any body tell me the difference between the customer and Generic extractions.what are the extraction steps?
Regards.
H

Hi,
In Generic extraction we have to fetch the data from table/view/funtion module.T.code RSO2.
Replicate the data source in bw and send into data target through ods(recommandable).
In customized extraction sap provided LIS,LO-COCKPIT,CO-PA,FI-SL etc,in these sap provides extract stuructures.From the extract structures we have to fetch the data and replicate the data into bw and push into the data targets.
with regards,
HARI GUPTA

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LIS and Generic Extraction

Hi All,
Could someone please send me some information regarding LIS extraction and Generic extraction.
Thanks in advance,
Sekhar

Hi Sekhar,
Please do check the link for step by step for generic xtraction
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
check the following
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv235/BI_EN/html/bw.htm
business content
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/g-i/how%20to%20co-pa%20extraction%203.0x
https://websmp203.sap-ag.de/co
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/37/5fb13cd0500255e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
(navigate with expand left nodes)
also co-pa
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/53/c1143c26b8bc00e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/fb07ab90-0201-0010-c489-d527d39cc0c6
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/1910ab90-0201-0010-eea3-c4ac84080806
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/ff61152b-0301-0010-849f-839fec3771f3
LO Extraction
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f83be790-0201-0010-4fb0-98bd7c01e328
Check these links:
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/16/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-one-v3-update-the-145serializer146
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/23/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-two-v3-update-when-some-problems-can-occur
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/01/19/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-three-the-new-update-methods
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/02/14/logistic-cockpit--when-you-need-more--first-option-enhance-it
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/04/19/logistic-cockpit-a-new-deal-overshadowed-by-the-old-fashioned-lis
Re: LO-Cockpit V1 and V2 update
Also Refer this link:
http://www.sap-img.com/business/lo-cockpit-step-by-step.htm
FI-CO 'Data Extraction -Line Item Level-FI-CO
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/a7f2f294-0501-0010-11bb-80e0d67c3e4a
FI-GL
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/c9/fe943b2bcbd11ee10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/e1/8e51341a06084de10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapfunc/fi.htm
FI-SL
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/28/5ccfbb45b01140a3b59298c267604f/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/41/65be27836d300ae10000000a114b54/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ee/cd143c5db89b00e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
How to do basic LO extraction for SAP-R3-BW
1. Go to transaction code RSA3 and see if any data is available related to your DataSource. If data is there in RSA3 then go to transaction code LBWG (Delete Setup data) and delete the data by entering the application name.
2. Go to transaction SBIW --> Settings for Application Specific Datasource --> Logistics --> Managing extract structures --> Initialization --> Filling the Setup table --> Application specific setup of statistical data --> perform setup (relevant application)
3. In OLI*** (for example OLI7BW for Statistical setup for old documents : Orders) give the name of the run and execute. Now all the available records from R/3 will be loaded to setup tables.
4. Go to transaction RSA3 and check the data.
5. Go to transaction LBWE and make sure the update mode for the corresponding DataSource is serialized V3 update.
6. Go to BW system and create infopackage and under the update tab select the initialize delta process. And schedule the package. Now all the data available in the setup tables are now loaded into the data target.
7.Now for the delta records go to LBWE in R/3 and change the update mode for the corresponding DataSource to Direct/Queue delta. By doing this record will bypass SM13 and directly go to RSA7. Go to transaction code RSA7 there you can see green light # Once the new records are added immediately you can see the record in RSA7.
8.Go to BW system and create a new infopackage for delta loads. Double click on new infopackage. Under update tab you can see the delta update radio button.
9.Now you can go to your data target and see the delta record.
find your scenario and find what data sources do you need on R3 side and ensure they are active as well:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/37/5fb13cd0500255e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
find your scenario -> data sources -> go to R3 -> sbiw and activate required data source
replicate data sources in BW:
RSA1 -> source systems -> right click on your source system -> replicate
then activate your BC:
service.sap.com/bi -> BI Business Content -> General Information -> SAP BW Business Content - Activation
and execute infopackage (it should be delivered with BC)
Useful links:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/e3/e60138fede083de10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
service.sap.com/bi -> BI InfoIndex
sdn.sap.com -> Business Information Warehouse -> How-To guides (under Quick Links)
Hope This Helps.
****Assign Points If Helpful****
Regards,
Ravikanth

Line items AND GENERIC EXTRACTION

what does line items exactly mean in DATASOURCES
AND WHAT ARE DELTA TYPE EXTRACTIONS IN GENERIC
TIME STAMPING
CALENDAR DAY
NUMERICAL POINTER
COULD ANY PLEASE EXPLAIN THE DIFFERNCE AND IN WHAT SCENARIOS WE USE IT ...
LOOKING FOR YOUR REPLY

Hi Guru,
Check below doc & thread for Line Item Dimension:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/a7f2f294-0501-0010-11bb-80e0d67c3e4a
Line Item Dimenstion
If a field (date, progressive document number, timestamp) exists in the extract structure of a DataSource that contains values which increase monotonously over time, you can define delta capability for this DataSource. If such a delta-relevant field exists in the extract structure, such as a timestamp, the system determines the data volume transferred in the delta method by comparing the maximum value transferred with the last load with the amount of data that has since entered the system. Only the data that has newly arrived is transferred.
To get the delta, generic delta management translates the update mode into a selection criterion. The selection of the request is enhanced with an interval for the delta-relevant field. The lower limit of the interval is known from the previous extraction. The upper limit is taken from the current value, such as the timestamp or the time of extraction. You can use security intervals to ensure that all data is taken into consideration in the extractions (The purpose of a security interval is to make the system take into consideration records that appear during the extraction process but which remain unextracted -since they have yet to be saved- during the next extraction; you have the option of adding a security interval to the upper limit/lower limit of the interval).
After the data request was transferred to the extractor, and the data was extracted, the extractor then informs generic delta management that the pointer can be set to the upper limit of the previously returned interval.
To have a clear idea:
1. If delta field is Date (Record Create Date or change date), then use Upper Limit of 1 day.
This will load Delta in BW as of yesterday. Leave Lower limit blank.
2. If delta field is Time Stamp, then use Upper Limit of equal to 1800 Seconds (30 minutes).
This will load Delta in BW as of 30 minutes old. Leave Lower limit blank.
3. If delta field is a Numeric Pointer i.e. generated record # like in GLPCA table, then use
Lower Limit. Use count 10-100. Leave upper limit blank. If value 10 is used then last 10
records will be loaded again. If a record is created when load was running, those records
may get lost. To prevent this situation, lower limit can be used to backup the starting
sequence number. This may result in some records being processed more than once.
Refer this link from help.sap.com
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/3f/548c9ec754ee4d90188a4f108e0121/frameset.htm
Difference between timestamp used in copa and generic data extraction?
COPA timestamps vs Generic timestamps
Check this doc for more info:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
Hope these helps u...
Regards,
KK.

BI content and LO extraction difference

Hi ,
Please tell me
1) what is the main difference between BI content and LO extraction.
2) What happens when we install business content and what happens when we do LO extraction.why are we doing this extraction.?
3) Which process must be done first.
and LO is for logistics extraction i.e. SD,MM etc.(please correct if i am wrong)
4) what about extraction with respect to finance is there anything like LO extraction for finance also?
please explain in simple english.
regards
lap.

1) what is the main difference between BI content and LO extraction.
BI contenat means the objects delivered by SAP. This includes data sources, data providers, info objects, udate rules, transfer rules, reprots, etc etc.
LO extraction refers to the process of extracting logistics data.
So, these two are not comparables.
2) What happens when we install business content and what happens when we do LO extraction.why are we doing this extraction.?
When you install BI content, all the objects ( depending on the mode of collection in RSA1 - business content) and if they are already present in the system in which is installed, merge.
LO extraction, as said in 1. above, when you extract LO, depending on the application area, it extracts the transaction data. For example, if you chose extract Sales order information, it picsk all the sales order data from the R/3 system.
3) Which process must be done first.
You need to install the BI first before you start the LO extraction process.
and LO is for logistics extraction i.e. SD,MM etc.(please correct if i am wrong)
YES, you are right. LO referes to all LO processes such as SD, MM, PM, PP, QM, CS. etc.
4) what about extraction with respect to finance is there anything like LO
For all other extractors, there is no special steps like LO. However, for COPA and FISL there wont be any BI content data sources.
Ravi Thothadri

New ledger data about customer and voder extraction

Dear colleagues:
I met a requirment, The FI system implement new ledger,so the detail information store in table FAGLFLEXA，I could use 0FI_GL_14 to get line item, but there is no vendor and customer information.and the 0FI_AR/AP_04 have customer and vendor information,but it does not have detail information (eg.profit centre).
Is there any smart solution to get the overall data together?
Thanks al ot

Hi,
U can enhance the datasource to include CUSTOMER and VENDOR fields if they r appearing in the ECC table.

Generic Extraction creation

HI All,
I want to extract data from two tables from CRM(Z tables).
When I goto RSO2 to create a generic data source it is giving me the options of Extract from View,Extract from Info Set and Extract BY FM.
But when I select Extraction from View it is giving me an option to select from one table only.
HOw can I extract data from two tables?
Please help me
Sridath

Hi,
Check the below links, you will get more info on Generic Extraction.
Generic Extraction:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/28/4c553c42360a40e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Check the link.
http://www.erpgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/MySAP%20BW%20Cookbook%20Vol%202.pdf
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
Refer:
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
Generic Extraction with Table, View, FM & Infoset
Creating a datasource for generic extraction
Generic Extraction
Customer and Generic extraction difference ?
generic extraction
Re: Generic extractors
generic extraction
Reg
Pra

Mapping wsdl - custom vs generic

Would there ever be a difference in the custom and generic mapping wsdl files?
Thanks!
-Kevin

Hi, It depends on the kind of application you develop. If you are developing something that dumps all the data from OnDemand using WS or building some app that can work across multiple instances, it is better to use generic wsdl otherwise custom is good. The problem with generic is it contains whole lot of fields and any integration tag changes for custom created fields would not be reflected in custom wsdl so it is going to be time confusion and tough to manage using generic WSDL. If the application is simple it may not worth to handle that complexity. Hope it helps
-- Venky CRMIT

Difference between Generic extraction and Generic Delta

Hi Experts,
Pleasee give of some information below query:
1) Difference between Generic extraction and Generic Delta.
2) How to achieve Generic delta.
3) When we go for Generic delta instead of generic extraction.
Advance ThankU. Points vl be assigned.
Thanks,
Ragu.R

Hi,
Generic delta is the delta load done using Generic DS.
Generic extraction
Usage:
1. When the standard extractors are not supporting the extraction what you need. If SAP does not have a standard extractor for your need to get data from R3, you would have to go for generic extractor.
2. If you create a custom object say by combining certain base tables in R3 say custom tables ZTAB1 and ZTAB2. These two tables are not SAP provided tables and there will not be any standard extractors. So cases like this you will have to go for generic extractors.
How:
You have to use RSO2 transaction and you can also set delta based on, one of the three characteristics such as timestamp, calday or pointer (a sequence no).
once you create it and activate it. The extractor will be available in ROOSOURCE - (table in R3 where all the data sources are available).
Refer:
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/3f/548c9ec754ee4d90188a4f108e0121/content.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
Generic Extraction via Function Module
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
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Difference between Customer Generated Extractors and Generic Extractors

Hi all,
Can anyone please tell me the difference between Customer Generated Extractors and Generic Extractors. I know that for all modules Generic extraction is possible by creating a datasource(RSO2) on top of a table, View or SAP Query in SE11. What are customer generated extractors like LIS, CO/PA and FI/SL.
What kind of extraction is used for FI/AR and FI/AP. To my understanding we have BW Content Extractors. Can anyone explain the extraction method and delta extraction for AR and AP.
Thanks,
Sabrina.

Hi,
Customer generated extractors are running on top of statistics data collection process in R/3. They extract data from statistical tables already available in R/3 and also use the mechanism already provided in R/3 to capture the delta.
For example, PO data goes to statistical table S012 (it is an LIS table) and you can build a generated extractor on top of it. The difference between such extractor and a generic one is the fact that these extractors (eg LIS) use the same mechanism of capturing delta that the statistics table was doing (for example data that goes into S012 is also captured by these generated extractors). Some system tables and structures are generated automatically to support this functionality, you do not have to develop anything for this.
Generic extractors on the other hand simply let you pull data from table/view/query etc. You have to develop code/functionality to support delta capturing for such extractors. If you built a generic extractor on top of S012 (it is a statistical table - LIS), you can pull its data to BW, but you do not have the delta capturing functionality in such case, you will have to code it yourself.
As a thumb rule, you go with the standard/generated extractors, and use generic extractors only if it is necessary to be so.
FI/AR and FI/AP extractors are part of business content (I think) and support delta functionality. To get detailed info on these, you can also look at help documentation -
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ee/cd143c5db89b00e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
cheers,

Generic Extraction - query view and infoset query difference

Hi Guys,
I want to know the Generic datasource difference between Extraction from view and Extraction from Query .I have read some threads and documents, still i am not getting the exact difference.
My understanding :
Views: combination of tables to view the end result , we use views.
Infoset query also with help of SQ01, 02, 03 : we combine tables to see the result.
both use primary key to select the data.
Please help me.
Thanks ,
Nithi.

Hi Nithi ,
When we build the datasource on the View
View is basically a table in which you can take data from many table combniation .
in view you can specify the table join condtion and selection condtion
View data gets updated as the data in the source table gets updated
When we build the datasource on the Infoset
Data source str gets filled from the infoset query .you need to use SQ01 and Sq02 transaction for this
in infoset you can define the tables from which you want to read the date .There is also facilty to write ABAP code which will process the data and fill the the data source str using infoset query
infoset query read the data from infoset and transfer to data structure
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Difference between LO and COPA Extraction and Steps

Hello All,
Can you please share the COPA extraction steps and also advise why COPA is differnt from other extraction (e.g.LIS/LO etc.) mechanisms?
And also advise what should be my aproach for any COPA extraction related reporting projects.
Thanks,
Mainak

Hi Mainak,
COPA Extraction -steps
R/3 System
1. KEB0
2. Select Datasource 1_CO_PA_CCA
3. Select Field Name for Partitioning (Eg, Ccode)
4. Initialise
5. Select characteristics & Value Fields & Key Figures
6. Select Development Class/Local Object
7. Workbench Request
8. Edit your Data Source to Select/Hide Fields
9. Extract Checker at RSA3 & Extract
BW
1. Replicate Data Source
2. Assign Info Source
3. Transfer all Data Source elements to Info Source
4. Activate Info Source
5. Create Cube on Infoprovider (Copy str from Infosource)
6. Go to Dimensions and create dimensions, Define & Assign
7. Check & Activate
8. Create Update Rules
9. Insert/Modify KF and write routines (const, formula, abap)
10. Activate
11. Create InfoPackage for Initialization
12. Maintain Infopackage
13. Under Update Tab Select Initialize delta on Infopackage
14. Schedule/Monitor
15. Create Another InfoPackage for Delta
16. Check on DELTA OptionPls r
17. Ready for Delta Load
LIS, CO/PA, and FI/SL are Customer Generated Generic Extractors, and LO is BW Content Extractors.
LIS is a cross application component LIS of SAP R/3 , which includes, Sales Information System, Purchasing Information System, Inventory Controlling....
Similarly CO/PA and FI/SL are used for specific Application Component of SAP R/3.
CO/PA collects all the OLTP data for calculating contribution margins (sales, cost of sales, overhead costs).
FI/SL collects all the OLTP data for financial accounting, special ledger
Difference: CO-PA / LIS / LO / FI-SL
1)Method for Delta: Time Stamp / LIS InfoStructure / Change Log / PseudoDelta
2) Application Specific: All are
3) Extractors: Customer Generated (CG) / SAP BW Content / CG / CG
4) Tables Used: Line item tables / 1 structure (s5nn). 2 tables (BWl1 and 2) and control change log (TMCBIW) / V3 update(asynchronous) and two tables: VBDATA and ARCFC (change log from SAP R-3 / Three types of tables - Line Item Tables- ZZP(plan) & ZZA(actual), - Total Table ZZT, - Objects Tables ZZO & ZZC
Pls refer:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ee/cd143c5db89b00e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sapportals.km.docs/documents/a1-8-4/how%20to%20set%20up%20connection%20co-pa%20-%20extraction
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sapportals.km.docs/documents/a1-8-4/how%20to%20set%20up%20connection%20co-pa%20-%20retraction
Differences between LIS,LO,CO/PA and FI-SL extractors
*Pls Assign points if info is useful*
Regards
CSM Reddy

When we go for Views and Function Modules for Generic Extraction

Hi Experts,
Can you please explain when we go for extracting the data using Views and when we got using Function Modules using Generic Extraction from R/3 system to BW with examples. And also can you explain when we go for delta for the above both scenarios.
Thanks for you help in advance
Rohith

Hi,
Scenario for Extarction using FM
Imagine the scenario where you need to extract data from
tables having no common field between them and thereby preventing you from creating a view on top of those tables..
Or simply consider tables that are highly unrelatd in terms of fields, but you have a requiremnt to extract data from them.
Also Refer.
create generic extractor based on 2 tables
Generic Extraction via Function Module
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
Steps.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/a0f46157-e1c4-2910-27aa-e3f4a9c8df33
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/86/1c8c3e94243446e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Scenario for Extraction using View
If there are more number of tables and data in those tables can be represented using joins then we can use this type of extraction
For more info Refer these links
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/cf/21ecf9446011d189700000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Difference between "Help View" and "Search Help"
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/cf/21ed06446011d189700000e8322d00/frameset.htm
for more detailed info look on:
http://www.sap-img.com/abap/what-is-the-different-types-and-usage-of-views.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/home/abap+dictionary&
For GEneric Delta refer these links
[generic with delta;
[https://forums.sdn.sap.com/click.jspa?searchID=11388803&messageID=5164737]

When to go for generic extraction using view and infoset query?

Hi,
Can anyone clarify me when we should go for generic extraction using view and when we should go for generic extraction using infoset query....
Also what is the difference between view and infoset?
I tried but could not find out....
Regards,
Kalyani.

Hi Kalyani,
We normally go for View or infoset when the data to be fetched in BW is distributed in different tables in SAP R/3.
Had the data been available in one table we can easily build our datasource on that table but if there are more tables then its not possible to do it without Views or Infosets. You can use Function Modules to build your datasource in case it involves complex logic to figure out the data from various tables.
Depending upon the table relationships we create view and include various fields from these tables in that view. Same is with the Infosets, you can have more flexible options like Outer Join, left outer Join etc.
Regards,
Pratap Sone

Difference between LIS and Lo extraction

Hi,
Wat is the Difference between LIS and LO extraction.
Thanks,
Sanu

HI
One good difference between lis and los is
lis uses transparent tables where as los use cluster tables
ust some infos about LIS flows....
with Plug-In 2001.2 S2xx-Structures have been replaced by Logistics Extraction Cockpit. However, R/3 releases 4.x support S2xx-Structures and Logistics Extraction Cockpit in parallel.
With new LBWE extractors there are a lot of benefits:
- Detailed Extraction: extraction can be deactivated (e.g. Schedule Line Data) leads to leaner extractors with less volume.
- Document Changes: only BW-relevant data changes will be updated (less upload volume).
- LIS-Tables are not updated reduced data volume due to avoided redundancy.
- Update with Batch-Process (V3) -> no load on daily business (but now there are available different delta methods as the direct delta...)
- No LIS-Know How necessary.
- Functional Enhancements easy to be done.
- Central, uniform maintenance tool for logistics applications (LBWE)
- No Delta-Tables (SnnnBIW1/-2) no double update, no double Data-Storage
- A lot of flows are covered: Purchasing,Inventory Controlling, Shop Floor Control, Quality Management, Shipment, Sales, Shipping, Billing, Plant Maintenance, Customer Service,
hope this helps

Extract Customer and Vendor master data

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Can any one tell me the standard program name in 4.6C to extract Customer and Vendor master data?
Other than SQL query, is there any possible way to extract customer and vendor master data?
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Siva
Edited by: Siva Kumar on Nov 13, 2008 3:43 AM

u can use below BAPIs for the same.
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