Cutting Two Camera Shoot

A dance performance was shot by two separate cameras, and I want to lock them together after finding the same frame. Then I want to remove the inferior audio of the two, and the cut back and forth between them. I am brand-spanking new to Premiere Pro CS6 -- have only watched a few tutorials (none of which addressed my needs), but I have some experience with MS Moviemaker (yeah, go ahead and groan -- I have, too...). I know this hardly counts, but back in my younger days I wanted to go into post-production, and did some apprentice editing in NYC on old, manual Moviola and Steenbeck editing machines -- handling real 35 mm film! I'm offering that tidbit as background so you don't think I'm just playing entirely, here. I would like very much to take some courses, and become very swift at editing in Premiere Pro, so that perhaps my youthful dreams can be quasi-realized, after all! Thanks for any help, especially if it's speedy! Gigi
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This sounds great, Richard, and I'm going to try it as soon as possible (I'm upset that I can't, right now!). Only one question: Are the video tracks locked together, so that when I cut a clip away, the same frames are still in the right place -- in other words, still together? You see, since I haven't actually done any of this, I don't know what happens... I'm afraid of something separating them (like the cut-away part not remaining an empty spot, but video moving into it to fill the void). And since I've only worked with real film, my understanding of editing is that you cut both rolls of film, so that you would also trim the pieces from Video 1 where you are using Video 2. And does the finished, edited film/video show up on the Master track? I guess I had more than one question.
But I'm very grateful for what you've told me -- it sounds simpler and easier to accomplish than I thought!

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