Delta pairs in Multiprovider definition

Hi all,
I was wondering what does this definition means... I cannot find any documentation for that.
You can see it from multiprovider definition> Extras> Delta pairs.
Tomer.

Hi
This is new feature - i.e. suppose you are having cached data ..and if new data comes then this would be posted as delta data ...and for this you need to specify class as described below ->
Diagnosis
The InfoProviders that are assembled together to form a MultiProvider can work together in pairs as delta InfoProviders.
That means that one of the InfoProviders contains cached data for a logical dataset, and the other InfoProvider contains the (new) dataset delta, which has yet to be posted in the first InfoProvider.
Procedure
You can create pairs of InfoProviders on the current dialog box (with regards to delta caching).
Before you can create a delta pair, you must ensure that both of the InfoProviders involved support delta caching.
You also have to specify the name of an ABAP delta class. This class must support the IF_RSD_DELTAPAIR interface.
-- hope it helps
SA
thnx for any points

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results.
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