Derivation - KEDR

I have a billing document where the sales district (BZIRK) from the ship to party flows to the COPA table. How can I restrict the PA table to take the BZIRK value from the billing header table (VBRK) and not from the ship to party master (KNA1)? I tried to create a new table lookup where the source field origin is VBRK-BZIRK, but for the COPA origin, I do not see a field for the billing document number (COPA-VBELN). The problem is that COPA does not have an option of putting VBELN. Is there a way of adding it there somehow by a userexit or creating a new field in the source field? Is it possible to add it to the available fields? How can I add fields to the USERTEMP1 field?
Thanks,
Tal

Tal
Derivation of sales district is Standard SAP delivered Characteristic derivations you cannot change it
however you can disable (BZIRK) it by flowing to COPA
Goto
KEDR
Goto View-Display all steps then you ll be able to see all the system delivered derivations then select Sales district from Customer/Sales Organization/Distributio table lookup there you can see the source fields and target fields
To disable it goto condition tab and select Any organisational unit and give condition <> and value of the organisational unit..
This condition stops flowing of data to COPA
Thanks
Ravindra kumar

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Thanks in advance.

HI Pradeep,
I am sorry for the delayed response. Please go through note 134889 for your query.
Best Regards,
Abhisek

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We are posting billing docs with multiple ship-to parties on the different line items. In COPA I need to get hold of the ship-to party. There are no sales orders created in the process.
In neither the derivations (KEDR) nor in the user-exit am I able to get hold of the billing doc line item nr, as that is what I need to determine the ship-to party from the VBRP table.
Any ideas on how I can pick up the ship-to party from the billing doc?
Thanks in advance
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HI,
Thanks for your response.
Yes, we have ship-to party at the line-item level. Technically it is stored on VBPA, but the access into VBPA is the billing doc and line item number.
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Your question is more appropriate for the ERP Financials - Controlling forum, but I don't have authority to move it. So I'll go ahead and try to give you an answer here. But keep that in mind when posting about CO-PA in the future since a larger audience will be found at the other [forum|SAP ERP Financials - Controlling; This requirement is an unusual request and the only way I think it could be possible is as follows.
1 Define a new characteristic (KEA5) with the option "No check" data validation so that no master data would be expected in CO-PA (KES1).
2 Add this new characteristic to your operating concern (KEA0) and activate and generate the operating concern.
3 Utilize COPA enhancement COPA0005 (SMOD) by defining an enhancement project in (CMOD) and calling the function module EXIT_SAPLKEII_002 and programming your logic to read SGTXT from include INCLUDE ZXKKEU08. (Notice that use of enhancement COPA0005 is not related to CO-PA derivation (KEDR), rather it is a way to directly modify the CO-PA data passed by the FI/CO document.
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This enhancement lets you modify how actual data is updated in
Profitability Analysis via the FI/CO interface.
Caution!
Using the components in this enhancement means that you are modifying
the standard update of actual data from Sales and Distribution (SD),
Financial Accounting (FI), or Materials Management (MM) to Profitability
Analysis. To avoid data from being updated inconsistently, you need to
have a solid understanding of the "FI/CO document" interface!
Make changes with extreme caution. If unsure, contact SAP!
The components comprise the following function modules:
o EXIT_SAPLKEII_001
o EXIT_SAPLKEII_002
You are responsible for ensuring the consistency of any changes made!
Test each change made extensively before use in the productive system.
For further clarification, contact SAP.
You should strongly consider whether this solution will negatively affect your system performance by growing your segment-level characteristics (table CE4XXXX where XXXX is your operating concern). You may want to in fact make this new characteristic field a non-segment level characteristic (KEQ3). This will disable you from viewing this field in summary level CO-PA reports (KE31), but it would available from line item based reports (KE91) or from a custom BW infoprovider which gets line item data. You could of course use a combination of KE31 reports and KE91 reports by jumping from summary to detail reports and passing the selected characteristics. This is accomplished via the split report (KE3L) option.
Best regards,
[Jeffrey Holdeman|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/profile/jeffrey+holdeman]
SAP BusinessObjects
Enterprise Performance Management
Regional Implementation Group
Tried to fix the formatting, but unsuccessful. Edited by: Jeffrey Holdeman on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM
Edited by: Jeffrey Holdeman on Jul 28, 2009 10:10 PM

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HI,
I think you are referring to Characteristics and not 'Value fields' in FI document. It could be that a Characteristic group is assigned to FI postings (RFBU) in transaction KE4G which restricts the Characteristics which you see in you Accounting document Profitability segment. Characteristics group is defined in transaction KEPA.
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With detailed explanation:
I thing previous post with was not detailed enough. Please see below.
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Hi,
Derivation strategy determines the way to derive the values. Derivation rule will actually make you derive the values based on given parameters.
As I said earlier, say for example Business needs to analyse COPA values on Department wise. Now department field say not captured in any other means, then to derive the value of department and post in copa, u use KEDR.
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I need to change existing derivation rules of one of the characteristic in COPA.
1: However when i am in change mode in KEDR i am unable to change source (greyed out )
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Reddy

No system allow you to change please check your authorization
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Roy

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Have a look at the following useful link:
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Hi Eric.
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