Derived depreciation on retirement of Asset

Hi
I have configured the derived depreciation and entry is getting generated for the depreciation posting. But for retirment of asset derived depreciation is not getting calculated.
Anyone put some suggetiion for this issue.
Thanks in advance

Hi,
Use of derived depreciation area is to findout the values of assets as per diff valuation, this valuation might be mathematical formula based, which is based on other dep areas.
Dep areas, which are used in derived dep area, needs to have the same currency maintainance.
The functionality of derived dep area:
1) Only dep rates might be diff from one area to another area, in this case only derived dep areas will get values in to it.
2) but where as acquisition, there would not be any value in this area, only in the case of full (100%) use of values from dependent areas used......
Thanks,
Srinu

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I am trying to create derived depreciation area with t-code OADB.
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Postings to derived area is simultaneous.
check this
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Edited by: Karol on Oct 6, 2011 9:54 AM

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