Designer 6.0 = 6i still using Headstart 2.1.2 patch 10 possible?

My client are upgrading Designer and we have som questions.
This is installed:
Designer Repository installed in 7.3.4.X
Designer 6.0 patch 5
Developer 6.0 patch 7
Discoverer 3.1.X
Headstart 2.1.2 with patch 10
PC Windows NT4
Application (190 forms, 60 reports, 40 discoverer) runs in database 8i 8.1.7 and the database is recently upgraded from 7.3.4.X.
We have developed Reports outside Designer.
We want to upgrade as far as we can with client/server support in Forms but also having the option to use webforms later.
Right now we want to upgrade to:
Designer 6 rel 4 and in database 8i
Developer 6i patch 5
Discoverer 4.1.37
IAS 1.2.2.2a (only Discoverer services)
I have read information on OTN but I did not get any answers.
Questions:
1. Can we upgrade Designer to 6i without Headstart patches and without too much problem?
What problems can we expect? I heard about LOV and record indicator changes.
2. If we have to use Headstart patches, then patch 11 to 13 is of interest that is available on OTN, is this a working solution and how much work does this imply? Our application is in production and almost a 24/7 business.
Thanks
Gustavo Forsberg
email: [email protected]
homepage: www.oraclecp.com

Hello everybody,
here's the script for width corrections of poplists, checkboxes and buttons:
declare
l_update BOOLEAN := TRUE; --SET FALSE IF LOG ONLY
l_display_width_new NUMBER := 0;
cursor items is
select modul.short_name modulename,
modul.name "modulename descr",
mco.name block_name,
'bound item' bound_type,
item.id,
item.name,
item.prompt,
item.display_type,
item.display_flag,
item.display_width,
item.display_height
from ci_general_modules modul,
ci_module_components mco,
ci_module_detail_table_usages mco_detail,
ci_items item
Where mco.general_module_reference = modul.id
and mco_detail.pac_reference = modul.id
and item.pac_reference = modul.id
and item.module_unit_reference = mco.id
and item.detail_table_usage_reference = mco_detail.id
and item.display_type IN ('CHECK BOX','POP-LIST','BUTTON')
-- test:
-- and modul.short_name IN ('module_name')
-- and mco.name = 'module_component_name'
-- and item.name = 'item_name'
union
select modul.short_name modulename,
modul.name "modulename descr",
mco.name block_name,
'unbound item' bound_type,
unbound_item.id,
unbound_item.name,
unbound_item.prompt,
unbound_item.display_type,
unbound_item.display_flag,
unbound_item.display_width,
unbound_item.display_height
from ci_general_modules modul,
ci_module_components mco,
ci_unbound_items unbound_item
Where mco.general_module_reference = modul.id
and unbound_item.module_unit_reference = mco.id
and unbound_item.display_type IN ('CHECK BOX','POP-LIST','BUTTON')
-- test:
-- and modul.short_name IN ('module_name')
-- and mco.name = 'module_component_name'
-- and item.name = 'item_name'
order by 1,2,3,5;
begin
dbms_output.put_line(RPAD('Module',10)||RPAD('item',25)||RPAD('Prompt',20)||
RPAD('disptype',15)||
RPAD('before',6)||
RPAD('after',6)||
RPAD('disp?',10));
for item in items loop
IF item.display_type = 'POP-LIST' THEN
l_display_width_new := FLOOR(item.display_width/2);
--IF YOU WANT LESS THAN 4, CHANGE PREF PLSIWD AFTER MIGRATION
--OTHERWISE WIDTH = l_display_width_new + PLSIWD (default 4)
IF l_display_width_new < 4 THEN
l_display_width_new := 4;
END IF;
if l_update = TRUE THEN
update ci_items
set display_width = l_display_width_new
where id = item.id;
end if;
ELSIF item.display_type = 'CHECK BOX' THEN
l_display_width_new := FLOOR(item.display_width * (7/10));
if l_update = TRUE THEN
update ci_items
set display_width = l_display_width_new
where id = item.id;
end if;
ELSIF item.display_type = 'BUTTON' THEN
l_display_width_new := FLOOR(item.display_width * (7/10));
if l_update = TRUE THEN
update ci_items
set display_width = l_display_width_new
where id = item.id;
end if;
END IF;
dbms_output.put_line(RPAD(item.modulename,10)||
RPAD(item.name,25)||
RPAD(NVL(item.prompt,'(NULL)'),20)||
RPAD(item.display_type,15)||
RPAD(item.display_width,6)||
RPAD(l_display_width_new,6)||
RPAD(item.display_flag,10));
end loop;
end;
Note: we found poplist width 4 problem after the script was commited, I have added the correct code. This script corrects most of the problems but it depends on you layout. If you have used PLSQL for layout changes this script might not help. Don't forget BLKUTT and GRPUTT preferences that you may have to change.
Good luck!
Regards
Gustavo Forsberg
www.oraclecp.com

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